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[edit] Michigan Flagship

The Somerset Marshall Field's store is officially known in Michigan as the Detroit flagship. Thus, I have put in.

After Dayton's and Hudson's changed their names to Marshall Field's, Target Corp. made a big deal about Michigan and Minnesota keeping their "flagship" stores- so I think the information should remain.


store, it should not appear in the Wikipedia. 64.122.134.85 17:53, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

So are you a native Chicagoan and just annoyed?

No I'm not from Chicago; I simply want to keep Wikipedia accurate and correct inaccuracies where I see them. 64.122.134.85 13:25, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Magic Trick

Does anyone remember a Magic Trick counter in the state street store where the clerk put on regular magic shows? I always stopped to watch the show when I was in the store even though I'd seen the same tricks over and over. I still have a pencil through a plate of glass trick I got there back in the 70's.

[edit] Proposed move

Marshall Field and Company → Marshall Field's

Marshall Field's is both the official and most commonly used name for this Minneapolis-based dept store company. EdwinHJ | Talk 21:24, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

  • Support although, with the Federated merger, this will not be the name of most of the stores in the chain for much longer, nor will it be based in Minneapolis. And here in Minnesota, most of us are just getting used to the idea that it's not Daytons anymore. Jonathunder 22:46, 2005 Mar 4 (UTC)

Moved. violet/riga (t) 09:44, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] State Street Store

Will the State Street store be the future flagship store of the new Macy's North divison of Federated?

It will be renamed "Macy's on State Street" and will be added as a flagship to the Macy's. 24.118.93.49 22:37, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] State Street Store Landmark Status

From http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=20379 Concerning the State Street store: "The building’s landmark status mandates Federated keep the nameplate and the famous Field’s clocks." I'm planning on putting this in.

I also remember hearing that the City of Chicago granted the landmark status after Federated bought Fields to guarantee that even if Federated *wanted* to totaly remove the Fields name, they would have to leave the nameplate and the clocks, sort of to thumb the city's nose at Federated. However, I dont have dates or references for information on when the building (or the namelpates/clocks specifically - don't know which it is) was granted landmark status. Anyone else?

According to the Illinois and Chicago historic preservation websites, Marshall Field's is not listed. It appears only on the National Register of Historic Places, which according to their website, does not protect architectural elements of the building - not even the clock and Tiffany ceiling. Would love to know the State Street store is protected, but can not verify the accuracy of the Chicago Tribune article.

The current owner Federated agreed with Mayor Daley in granting Landmark status to the State Street Store. From what I know - this is the outside plaques, clocks, outside look. I had read in the Tribune that Macy's wanted to add large lighted signs with their name, and it was vetoed by Mayor Daley. But, Federated made certain concessions to Daley and he has praised them in return. http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4155/is_20051007/ai_n15826320 Kidsheaven 04:26, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

A question I have and there is nothing on whether or not they as agreeing to be a Landmark still get to place the Macy's sign on the roof as in Crain's Business link above. Chase Bank was told no to a roof top sign on the First National Bank building, not a landmark, however I noticed today that they did get their "Chase" sign and logo along with another building with some sort of roof top sign. It was for a number of years that no new signs were added to roofs and I know of one old sign being retained on a hotel that changed names as part of their "Landmark" agreement.Kidsheaven 04:38, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Photos of State Street Store

Would someone be able to take photos of the interior and exterior of the State Street store before it is converted into a Macy's in September 2006? An exterior shot like the one of Macy's Herald Square would be nice, as well as one or two of the unique interior. J2rome 03:58, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

I might attempt the photos this week. I also want to get shots of the Tiffany ceiling. --Gerald Farinas 04:22, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Still no photos yet? It's been nearly a month since I first made the request. Would any Chicagoan or visitor to the city be able to take some nice exterior and interior photos of the State Street store soon? I've always wondered what it's unique interior looks like and of vartity of photos would be nice. J2rome 06:10, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

A Picture I took of State Street from Christmas the year 2000 Marshall Field's. The photo was taken on January 1, 2000 looking North on State St. It is two 35mm photos placed together to fit the street in one page. I had no idea at the time that the store would change names or close. Anyone on the site here is welcome to place it on the page. Federated made so little of the name change.

Yet they want to make sure that no other company can use the name. Currently they are using the Marshall Field's name and keep it as a licensed name by actively using it. They have the following uses I have seen in November 2006:

  • The store name plaques
  • Collectables
  • Frango boxes with the Marshall Fields name, (some with Chicago photos) - though they are very clearly state "produced for Macy's" on the box bottoms.

The store is now called Macy's on State Street. The flags in the photo are now missing and ornaments added to the horns with the Macy's name and logo. Kidsheaven 03:44, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Marshall_Field%27s_Christmas_2000.jpg

[edit] Official website

I put the website URLs back in both the infobox as well as the external links. The site does not redirect. It still has links to Field's pages. Clipper471 01:49, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi. When I clicked on the official site, it had a message saying "We're now now moving to macys.com Please Join Us!" and everywhere I clicked will make me go to macys.com! Bucs2004 04:26, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Everywhere, that is, except for the travel link -- which directs to Marshall Field's Travel (not yet rebranded). -- ArkansasTraveler 23:33, 19 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Second-largest?

Both the Hudson's and this article claim their flagship stores were/are the second-largest in the country, next to Macy's. Perhaps both claims were true at one point in time, but this should be clarified. --Rehcsif 12:43, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Marshall Field's State Street Store was the largest store in the world when completed in 1907. This title passed to Macy's after completion of the Seventh avenue addition in 1924, dropping Field's to second largest. Hudson's Woodward avenue store became second largest at (or perhaps sometime before) its completion in 1946. After the 1998 demolition of Hudson's, Field's State Street Store again became second largest. The foregoing inferred from reading Wikipedia. MrLou 07:30, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Long?

The article is now flagged as 'very long', but it doesn't even seem as long as lots of other articles. We could break out the list onto a separate page, but it doesn't really seem worth it to me... Discuss? --Rehcsif 12:45, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

The list of stores, since it is a list, can be merged out. Also, I would convert it into a table for better scanability (see Dayton's#Former Dayton's locations for what I did this morning). In addition, there should be only four main sections in this article: History, Subsidiaries (can be eliminated because it is a subsidiary, unless it has owned something else in the past), Corporate governance, and Business model. I have yet to actually the article for more ideas. Tuxide 18:35, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
I take back my comment about eliminating a Subsidiaries section, since it did have its own divisions back when it was a public company. Tuxide 18:58, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
I take back even more of my comment here since I have revised Wikipedia:WikiProject Retailing/Company page structure this morning. Tuxide 18:24, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
After going through it some more, I've realized that its tone is not what I was expecting. I am marking the article as {{essay-entry}} because it seems to be more creatively written than factual-based. Simply toning the article down should reduce the size of it and make it more interesting to read. Also I see someone else has spotted this, but anything not directly related to the chain shouldn't go in this article. For example, "Sam Walton used to work for JC Penney" would go in Sam Walton, not History of Wal-Mart. Tuxide 04:39, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
I don't think there are format problems, since the topic is of historic interest to Chicagoans, and has been so treated. However, the list of existing stores no longer seems necessary (let that be covered under Macy's North). Busjack 17:29, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
But not all stores in Macy's North were Marshall Fields (e.g. Mall of America store). --Rehcsif 17:31, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
The Macy's North article already sorts that out (or is the correct place for doing so). Busjack 17:38, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Many articles on Wikipedia about defunct retail chains have sections on former locations. Consensus should be reached for all such articles before removing this section. Also, it is not the format that I am mainly disputing now, it is the tone that it is written in. I now realize that articles about defunct chains should have a different format than articles about existing ones. Tuxide 18:21, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
Since the section on former locations was removed (moved) I added "Information on other former Marshall Field's locations can be found at Macy's North." to the beginning of the article for clarity in finding this useful chart of stores. Please do not delete this phrase unless you provide some alternative direction.MrLou 23:44, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
This type addition is redundant and has been deleted. If more information is sought, the divisional link to Macy's North is already Wiki linked. Adding sentences specifically for such redirects defeats the purpose of Wiki links.66.25.184.47 04:10, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Please sign your comments. Its not an addition. Its a replacement for the large list of stores that was moved to Macy's North by Busjack. I added the "Information on other former Marshall Field's locations" because it is not clear that "Macy's North" is the place to find such information. Rather than revert, I will rewrite the sentence so that it does not seem redundant and provides useful information. Perhaps Rehcsif, Busjack, or Tuxide can comment as to this latest revision that I am about to implement.MrLou 17:48, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
[1] for convenience. I like the idea that I presented in my first post the best, and I'm sorry if I didn't make it clear enough. The list takes up 11.6k and should be forked into a new article called List of former Marshall Field's locations with a link provided in the See also section of both Marshall Field's and Macy's North: First, the list is directly related to both chains; and second, WP:CORP says that a "List of Wal-Marts in China" article would be informative. Tuxide 20:19, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nothing Wrong with the Article

I see nothing wrong with the style of this article. It appears to be very informative.

[edit] Store List

I moved the list to a new page, Former Marshall Field's Locations, because it was quite long. If there is reason for it to be included in the main article, by all means move it back. Nenyedi 22:25, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

List has been subsequently deleted. It is currently available at [2] TPM2006 01:37, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] rumors of Macy's Sale

Recently in the news: http://www.wbbm780.com/pages/609558.php?contentType=4&contentId=634163 http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-070622macys,0,1519785.story?coll=chi-business-hed http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/providerarticle.aspx?Feed=ACBJ&Date=20070622&ID=7075018 http://www.bizjournals.com/portland/stories/2007/06/18/daily48.html Kidsheaven 00:22, 30 June 2007 (UTC)