Talk:Marmalade

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Contents 1 Invention 2 Boar carcass 3 Small jar of marmalade 4 Other Marmalades 5 World Views and all because of Marmalade 6 Parkinson

[edit] Invention

I've found info on the web that supports the view that Janet Keiller first invented Dundee Marmalade in 1700, but that it wasn't for a few generations later that James Keiller, and his mother built the first marmalade factory, in [1797]]. So, perhaps, the comment about the story being fable should be removed. dduck

http://novascotia.cbc.ca/radio/infomorn/cookbook/marmalade.html

This is just another repetition of the fable. I had a link which showed how this was untrue. i'll have to find it again. Mintguy 14:37, 8 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Here - http://www.scotlandmag.com/issue/1/scottish_innovators/36 Mintguy 14:41, 8 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I've tracked down James Keiller, 1777 - 1839. He had parents John and Janet (Matheson). He married Barbara Robertson on 25 Mar 1805. According to the family tree there was no Janet or James around 1700, so the Canadian link is wrong, and the page is pretty much okay as it stands. - dduck

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/default.asp

http://patstedman.bravepages.com/marmalade/pafg05.htm

[edit] Boar carcass

Does somebody have a source that states the the British call this food "Boar carcass" ?

It sounds a lot like someone tried to translate spareribs without knowing the term. --Verres 20:14, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

Yuck, course we don't!

That's quite easily the silliest thing I've read all day, well done! --JamesTheNumberless 17:45, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I gathered all the (reliable) information I could find about the etymology of "marmalade" (from Portuguese and Latin). Do you think the comment "citation needded" is still necessary?

In what languages does "marmalade" refer to preserves not made from oranges? And who has cited this difference in use of the word as an example of the "irreconcilability" of different world-views?--Gheuf 22:37, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Small jar of marmalade

A coloquial term originating from Welsh settlers in France in the early 21st century, often used to describe a person from Northern England who has a tendency to engage in menial, pointless tasks in an effort to avoid a general level of social interaction with his peers and to "drip feed negativity" in to proceedings.

The small jar of marmalader will often be found attemting to engage his peers in low-level, ineffective banter in an effort to justify his anti-social behaviour. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.254.147.52 (talk) 14:26, 20 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Other Marmalades

I've eaten chilli marmalade before. I think "marmalade" refers to the preparation process, not necessarily the end product. Otherwise it would have been called just "chilli jam". For this reason I've changed "invariably" to "almost always" in the first paragraph.

Maerk 13:04, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] World Views and all because of Marmalade

"This linguistic difference has occasionally been claimed as emblematic of the irreconcilability of anglophone and continental world views" - by whom? Perhaps the odd boorish-upper-class-empire-lamenting-twat might think so. Sorry but I'm removing. It's totally irrelevant to the definition of marmalade as well as being racist (anti-European), nasty and frankly untrue.--62.249.233.80 16:13, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Parkinson

Did anyone else watch the last Parkinson show last night? Michael Caine was on and chatting about facts he remembers. One was about the etymology of Marmalade, and he gave the "ma'am et malade" or something like that (the Mary Queen of Scots thing). How many people have looked at the marmalade page to check if that was true or not!? Thisnamestaken (talk) 18:03, 17 December 2007 (UTC)