Talk:Market trends
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This article is ambiguous about which trends define a "bull" and which a "bear" market. It just states these are "terms" and not which is which. Is a bull market "overwhelmed by buyers" (normally driving prices up), or a "buyer's market" (normally driving prices down)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.148.109.151 (talk) 14:58, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Someone needs to clean up this text on the article:
"How can this be called a, "correction" when on 9.7.01 the Dow fell 2-3% and on 9.17 by 7-8%? Both numbers, eight and three are less than ten, therefor this is not a, "correction" by the definition stated above."
Don't Know who added it, but it's pretty unprofessional writing.
I think that this term Bull Market has an inherent connection with Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls of the 90's. Yavol.
- Since the term "bull market" is centuries old, that would be unlikely. Rhobite 19:40, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
I think the term bearish comes from the Chicago Bears of the late 90's. Jarrett Olson —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.202.9.5 (talk • contribs)
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[edit] Merge
I've merged all the bull/bear market related articles here, expanded and rewritten top-down; it is now basically new article. —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-01 03:50Z
- Ummm...was this conducted after a consultation? I did not see any merge tags over the last few days/weeks. --nirvana2013 00:15, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- I tend to be bold in the article space ("it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission"). Do you prefer the way it was before? —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-03 05:08Z
- Is there anyway I can refer back to the separate articles to compare? --nirvana2013 16:31, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, you can use the history tool. Or are you asking something else? —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-03 16:43Z
- Yes it looks OK to me. In time a sub-article may need to open up for bull market and bear market, which could list all famous bull/bear markets etc. --nirvana2013 13:05, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, you can use the history tool. Or are you asking something else? —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-03 16:43Z
- Is there anyway I can refer back to the separate articles to compare? --nirvana2013 16:31, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- I tend to be bold in the article space ("it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission"). Do you prefer the way it was before? —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-03 05:08Z
Sorry, sellers cannot 'outnumber' buyers, nor vice versa. This is a common error, but the number of buyers always must equal the number of sellers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.251.222.11 (talk) 17:26, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Inconsistent?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if a bear market is one that is experiencing a fall in prices, wouldn't a bear market rally be a quick fall in prices? (Sorry about not knowing all the fancy tag syntax.) -Malakai
- A rally is an increase in prices, the point is a bear market rally is within a bear market. —Quarl (talk) 2006-03-21 08:31Z
[edit] stubs
User:165.247.45.61 changed Bull market and Bear market from redirects to substubs. I don't see any reason to do that so I'm reverting if it's not justified. —Quarl (talk) 2006-03-22 05:03Z
[edit] external links
why this page does not have external links?
[edit] Bears
How do bears make money when they expect the market to go down? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.49.168.93 (talk) 00:57, 23 April 2007 (UTC).
Through Spread Betting —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.109.66.150 (talk) 04:49, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
It's called a short position. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 21:57, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Intro edits, etc.
I cleaned up the introduction and added references. The section on random walk/EMH seemed completely out of place, perhaps another editor can write something about those topics that fits this article. Rgfolsom 15:55, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Market trends are described as periods when bulls (buyers) consistently outnumber bears (sellers), or vice versa. A bull or bear market describes the trend and sentiment driving it, but can also refer to specific securities and sectors ("bullish on IBM", "bullish on technology stocks," or "bearish on gold", etc.).
The last period is superfluous, but more important, *every* stock market transaction has a buyer and a seller. Thus, buyers cannot outnumber sellers or vice versa, at least in terms of *actual* buyers or sellers. This balance is critical to understanding the market! I suggest:
Market trends are described as periods when bulls (investors who think stocks are undervalued or fairly valued compared to Treasury bonds) consistently outnumber bears (investors who think stocks are overvalued), or vice versa. A bull or bear market describes the trend and sentiment driving it, but can also refer to specific securities and sectors ("bullish on IBM", "bullish on technology stocks," or "bearish on gold", etc.) But, every seller has a buyer, and vice versa.
