Talk:Marehan

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This article was nominated for deletion on 2006-02-05. The result of the discussion was keep.

The number of the Darod (of which Marehan is a sub-clan) is estimated at 1.5 milion. The estimate in this article does not seem consistent with that figure. Furthermore there is no source backing up the estimate given of the number of Marehan in this article, nor is the year indicated in which the estimate was made. That is the reason why I deleted the number. Anyone wanting to put it back. Please give a source and if possible the number put on the complete Darod.S710 10:52, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Ahmed Gurey

I have removed the claim that Ahmad ibn Ibrihim al-Ghazi (or Ahmed Gurey) was a member of the Marehan clan. See Talk:Ahmad ibn Ibrihim al-Ghazi#Somali clan? for further discussion. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 19:54, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

This continues to be an issue. In the past 24 hours, two different IPs have added Ahmad ibn Ibrihim al-Ghazi to the list of notable Marehan without any supporting attribution(s). Note that at one time or another, Ahmad ibn Ibrihim al-Ghazi has been added to the "Notable people" list in most of the individual Somali clan articles. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 02:28, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
I propose semi-protection if this continues. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 14:03, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Neutrality

The article, in its current state, paints the Barre regime in a positive light, and suggests that any accomplishments on the regime's part typify the positive attributes of the entire clan. Thus I've tagged the article with {{POV}}. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 22:15, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

The "NPOV" tag has long since been removed, though the problems remain. I'm restoring it, and adding the {{Not verified}} tag, as well. (Statements such as "The Marehan are popularly considered as the most fiercest nationalists among the Somali people" need attribution, aside from PoV issues.) -- Gyrofrog (talk) 17:23, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Moved PoV text

The text in question has since been removed and re-added at least once. I am moving it here to the talk page. As previously explained this needs to be cleaned up for PoV if it is to remain in the article. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 13:12, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

The Marehan are popularly considered as the most fiercest nationalists among the Somali people. It is why the Marehan today do not recognize the universal Somali independence day of July 1, 1960 as they say they were never colonized. Straddling between the Ethio-Somali border and the Kenyan-Somali border, they have always played key roles in both the rising up of Somali nationalistic fervor and the charge into action towards the attainment of a one greater Somalia.

The Marehan are recorded in history ranging from the Arab Shihab Ad-din's ancient chronicles to Richard Burton's modern analysis of the East African sub-region as a force to be reckoned with and the epitome of the Somali and his characteristics.

The British sent several punitive expeditions into the Marehan country during World War II but they were rebuffed and watched from the sidelines as the Marehan signed a treaty of peace and cooperation with the Italians giving the Marehan a respite against imperialism and the Italians a respite from Marehan fury.

The Marehan continued to practice their heavy influence among the Somali people with the ascension of President Mohamed Siad Barre into power. The country became the scientific laboratory of the Marehan and its subsequent modernization and development was put into place. Cities sprung up. The Somali language was standardized on Latin script, which led to literacy blossoming from 5% to 55%.[1] Equality was promoted, and the over all livelihood of the Somali rose tremendously under the tuteluge of the Marehan.

Marehan not surprisingly once again led the Somalis into the Ogaden War with the fulfillment of the legacy of Imam Ahmed Gragn in mind. They succeeded on the whole only to withdraw after the Communist world led by the Soviet Union and Cuba came to the immediate aid of the Ethiopians[1]. The Marehan are currently considered one of the strongest proponents of a re-emergence of a strong and viable Somali state with their disdain of the civil war and the applause they are receiving as they are increasingly realized as a vehicle of force towards the re-emergence of their homeland from civil war and anarchy.

The moved text has been sitting here undiscussed for many months. It seems like the lower half of the moved text has sources, and as such could be included in a rewritten form. If there is no further debate, perhaps the POV tag can be removed. Phyesalis 05:20, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Done.--Alabamaboy 01:23, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Howrarsame Clans

increace of the description of Reer Faarax Reer Wardheere

    Xirsi 
    Qodax 
    Guuleed

Reer Uurmaax

    Cali 
    Waceys 
    Khalayax
    Muuse

Reer Colow

this is very important when you are talking to the Aden Saleebaan Sub-clan of Howrarsame Tribe. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.114.184.134 (talk) 09:25, 3 April 2007 (UTC).