Talk:Marble Hill, Manhattan

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[edit] Harlem River

So the portion of the Harlem River separating Marble Hill from Manhattan island is, in fact, a man-made canal? -24.149.193.49 (talk) 00:01, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

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I live on 231st street, Bronx. I have walked many times from 225 (still Manhattan) to 231st street on Broadway and on Bailey Ave. There is no sign in between or anything that informs where Manhattan ends and where the Bronx begins. I thought the limit might be some street, but no street has any sign indicating that the limit of Manhattan is right there. Maybe a GPS reading would be the only way to determine where the limit is.

There is a mall in Marble Hill (Rive Plaza I believe), and all banks, restaurants, stores, even Starbucks, claim they are in the Bronx. Maybe they are just not well informed, or they don't care.

That's because their postal address is a Bronx zip code, though they are technically in Manhattan.

Marble Hill is not technically Manhattan; it is Manhattan. The same logic that brings people to the conclusion that Marble Hill is in the Bronx (the 'because it's on the mainland' argument) should also bring you to the conclusion that Roosevelt Island isn't part of Manhattan either, that Brooklyn and Queens are the same borough, and that the Bronx is still part of Westchester County. By the way, there is actually a sign on Broadway at 230th Street (right past the Marble Hill projects) that says "The Bronx: All-America City" -EJ220 17:52, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Isn't that sign a bit of a misnomer, as the Bronx is NOT a city in the municipal sense, but rather a borough of New York City? -24.149.193.49 (talk) 00:03, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

According to the current community board website [1], the Marble Hill neighborhood is represented by Bronx Community board 8. PaigePhault 22:21, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

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Actually marble hill is a part of manhattan.  At some point it was connected to manhattan and the bridge there and the water way are man made.  It was blown open pananma canal style and the water way was manipulated not natural. 
Tecnically manhattan was not a complete island there was a part that was connected to the bronx. That is why marble hill is manhattan and somebody actually picked where manahattan ends/starts and where the bronx starts or ends.  
For postal code reasons the bronx zoned it to minimize confusion.  The sighn that tells you that youre in manahattan is actually in what marle hill project residents call the "orange park".  AT some point it was all painted orange thats the only sighn there.  If not you would never know you are in manhattan and that river plaza mall crosses manhattan and the bronx.

For as long as humans have been around, Manhattan has ALWAYS been an island, and was not connected to the Bronx. As the article states, the Harlem River (a natural river and not man-mad) once separated Marble Hill from the Bronx and Marble Hill was connected to the rest of Manhattan. As for postal codes, one- the Bronx does not and never has determined what ZIP code goes where, only the USPS does, states and their municipalities are not allowed by federal law to interfere. second- who cares what the ZIP code is in determining where something is or what its name is? The USPS could decide suddenly to put Harlem under the name Albany and give it a 12209 ZIP code but Harlem would still be Manhattan and the city of New York, political boundaries and names are all that matters to define a place, ZIP codes are just to make delivering mail more efficient and nothing else.Camelbinky 15:24, 25 July 2007 (UTC)