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Contents 1 Antonini 2 Sourced info 3 Governor of Carabobo sentence removed 4 new section? 4.1 Involvement of Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner

[edit] Antonini

Antonini is the last name, Wilson is the second last name, customary of latin American naming.--F3rn4nd0 ^{(Roger - Out)} 22:34, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

So should the article use 'Antonini-Wilson'? Most sources I've seen just use 'Wilson' Questioning81 22:56, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

yes, Antonini-Wilson is better. Wilson is the mother's maiden name. --F3rn4nd0 ^{(Roger - Out)} 23:03, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

great job, that's a good start!--F3rn4nd0 ^{(Roger - Out)} 01:36, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sourced info

The names of nestor kirchner and his wife were removed, maybe add them back to the article since there are numerous sources involving them in the scandal!!? --F3rn4nd0 ^{(Roger - Out)} 06:49, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

How about first opining on the merge, so we can get this text together in one place first? And whenever making allegations about living persons, a cite must be provided. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 07:00, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Governor of Carabobo sentence removed

I removed the following text:

• The governor of Carabobo started a campaign accusing the media of promoting "terrorism" by talking about "scandals". Around the country, placards were swiftly produced to declare scandals from the media to be terrorist acts.^{[citation needed]}

JRSP questioned its relevance in his edit summary; I've searched the internet for a source, and can't find one. Apparently it was originally sourced to some Carabobo newspaper, but it wasn't sourced correctly and I can't locate a reference. It also doesn't seem highly relevant to the story, but perhaps if a source can be located, relevance can be established. The original author of most of this material needs to get busy sourcing all of it; almost everything else can be sourced to the various news reports still listed in External links, but this work needs to be done. The more time that goes by, the harder it will be to add the inline citations after the fact. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:36, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I think the Governor means media scandals in general, not specifically el maletinazo.[1] But he can be as noisy as the media he criticizes :-) I don't think his opinions are relevant to the article. JRSP 15:28, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, still seems only marginally related to me; I think we need a much stronger connection and relevance established before adding this back. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:41, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] new section?

[edit] Involvement of Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner

On Wednesday December 13, 2007 the Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) arrested three Venezuelans and one Uruguayan accusing them of being agents of the Venezuelan government who intended to look for Antonini to help cover up the scandal of the money that was intended for "a candidate" in the Argentine presidential elections of 2007.[2] The men arrested in Miami were charged with acting as agents of Venezuela's government and failing to register themselves as such.[3]

The Attorney general in charge of the case Thomas Mulvihill said that one of the arrested individuals, named Franklin Durán had declared that the money was for the then presidential candidate Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner.[4] The Ambassador of the United States to Argentina Earl Antonhy Wayne assured that this had nothing to do with the Argentina-United States relations.[5]

Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner responded to the investigation led by the United States dubbing it "operación basura" (Operation garbage).[6]

--Zer0~Gravity ^{(Roger - Out)} 19:36, 14 December 2007 (UTC)