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Isn't this article a little bias?? Based on Malaysia's own claim fromt tales but with no further evidence to support it?? Malacca 1st king was not properly explained... Hang Li Po remains a Mystery.. and the five great warriors of Malacca remains a legend...

you're welcomed to make changes. However, the five warriors are merely legend. Not quite history. __earth

Contents 1 parameswara, descendant of alexander the great? 2 Fall of Malacca 3 Sejarah Melayu and St james 3.1 Malacca Sultanate Cuisine 3.2 Malacca or Melaka? 3.3 Malaccan Weapons

[edit] parameswara, descendant of alexander the great?

I thought that's only a myth. First of all, we have to look at the source of this fact. If I'm not mistaken, it's from the malay annals, which's full of myths. 2ndly, there's not enough evidence or sources (other than malay annals) that stated that he's the descendant of Alexander. Thus we cannot conclude that he's a descendant from the Alexander the great.141.213.240.242 05:37, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

It says allegedly. __earth ^(Talk) 06:23, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fall of Malacca

Just wondering if anybody did any actual research on this (apart from the school text books) but Emanuel Godinho de Eredia placed the date of the Portuguese conquest of Malacca on the 15th of August, 1511. Does anybody else have any other sources they can cite? I have a copy (translated 1929) of Eredia's 1613 - Description of Malaca and Meridional India and Cathay in Three Treatises dedicated to the King, Dom Phelippe at Goa, 24th November, 1613.

• For his case I would argue that de Eredia was first and foremost a Malaccan by birth (he was born in Malacca on 15th July 1563) and so was closest to the most legitimate source of information, as some of the Portuguese soldiers that took part in the 1511 battle settled there and bore descendants. So oral traditions might have been passed more faithfully, considering that it is only two - three generations since the events. Consider the case if the treatises were written by someone living in Europe at that time.

• Second, being a son of a Portuguese missionary (Juan de Eredia) and a Malay (Bugis) princess (from Macassar, Celebes) (named Dona Elena Vessiva). Eredia would have two sources to verify his facts, from the Portuguese records and from the court traditions of his maternal grandfather the King of Supa.

So is there any other credible source for the date ? Cheers.

--Bukhrin 17:11, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sejarah Melayu and St james

i agree with bukhrin. there should be a proper research regarding the actual date of Malacca's fall. i thought that there was mention of the date of the Fall in the Sejarah Melayu. i don't know, but i'll check it out. also, i read in the book "My People, My Country" by Bernard Sta maria and he mentioned that the portuguese fired the first cannon on St james Day, the portuguese patron saint, and conquered Malacca fifteen days later.

[edit] Malacca Sultanate Cuisine

Curious to find out what sort of royal cuisine/foods the sultan & his family eaten back then? Any idea? L joo 17:26, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Malacca or Melaka?

The name should be Melaka instead of Malacca. Understandbly that most Western books and references referred to it as Malacca but it is the corruption of its real name by English language speakers.

It's like naming America as Amerika, English as Inggeris, Thailand as Siam, etc. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Suryasuharman (talk • contribs) 10:25, 22 March 2007 (UTC).

'Melaka/Malacca' is roman alphabet but the sultanate already exist 100+ years before the Portuguese arrived. L joo 20:29, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Malaccan Weapons

Reading "Portuguese invasion and its effects" I discovered this >> "Although Malacca seems to have been well supplied with artillery, but the combination of Portuguese firepower, determination and fanatical courage prevailed...."

Dictionary: [ ARTILLERY ] definition

• 1. Large-caliber weapons, such as cannon, howitzers, and missile launchers, that are operated by crews.
• 2. The combat arm that specializes in the use of such weapons.
• 3. The science of the use of guns; gunnery.
• 4. Weapons, such as catapults, arbalests, and other early devices, used for discharging missiles.

I'm curious, what kind of Malaccan Weapons was that to be considered as "artillery"? Does that mean Malacca (500 years ago) already well equipped with guns, catapults, cannon, etc? L joo 21:04, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

It might be just some light cannons bought from the Arabs. Well you'd be surprised that the Sultan's army too was equipped with muskets (though not in a sum that would give much advantage to them) and that the battle was not fought just using spears, sticks, stones and durians :D . Read it somewhere but I know I have to cite a source a two. --Bukhrin 14:34, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Interesting. And yeah cite a source, would like to read about it. Btw, since you mentioned durians, do they really fight with durians? L joo 15:27, 2 August 2007 (UTC)