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It's good to have a page on this movie, which I enjoyed tremendously. Thanks to the editor who started it.

The previous version was somewhat hard to read, just one breathless paragraph. I rewrote it in what I hope is more readable fashion. Zora

Contents 1 Spoiler 2 English 3 Quote re opening weeks box office 4 English Translation 5 Major Errors

[edit] Spoiler

User:Zora has complained that the plot section gives too much:

Dear Error,

I notice that you added some info to the Main Hoon Na summary that basically told anyone who read the article how the movie was going to turn out. I'm going to ask you to reconsider. It seems to me that for current, "fluff" movies that are easily available on DVD/VCD, the summary is there to give prospective viewers a chance to decide whether or not they want to watch/rent the movie. Give just enough to orient the viewer (especially if the viewer is a foreigner exploring Bollywood movies) but not so much that it completely spoils the movie. I wouldn't do this for classic movies, but current ones, well, let's be friendly.

I could have just deleted your comment, but I don't think that would be collegial. You've taken a username, you want to be part of this community of volunteer editors, and you should be able to argue your case. So tell me why I'm wrong <g>. On the movie's talk page or my talk page, whatever.

Thanks for working on the Bollywood articles. Bollywood movies are now much much higher profile (outside India) than they were when I started exploring them a few years ago, and I'm sure that our work must be helping a lot of newbies get oriented. I sure could have used some help then! Zora 05:57, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

I have checked Wikipedia:Spoiler warning but don't see a rule about limits to disclosure. You can compare with Bride_and_Prejudice#Plot.

The only point where I see that my additions "reveal" is about the identity of Lakshman. I am starting to forget the movie, but I seem to recall that the moment Sanju sings the "Queen of Hearts" song and Lucky arrives in his bike, we guess who the main characters will be. A real spoiler would be knowing the exact plans of Raghavan, or how the love plots end, or the reaction of Lakshman and his mom to the "real" Ram, but these are not in the current synopsis. Main Hoon Na anyway is no Witness for the Prosecution. Its eventual appeal comes from actions scenes, enjoyable actresses, beautiful Himalayas and music and dances, not from the plot depth.

One change could be leaving a paragraph with just the first scenes ("Project Milaap is...") between the ==Plot== title and the {spoiler}.

What would you delete? --Error 22:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Well, I guess I'm OK with leaving it the way it is. As you say, it's clear that Lucky=Lakshman quite early in the film. Zora 02:37, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

I can't really say if the IMDB summaries are more or less revealing. --Error 22:57, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] English

Comparing with other Bollywood movies (not that I've seen many), I noticed a lot of code switching in English. Not just the expectable Anglicisms or phrases like "sorry", "OK", but full non-stock sentences. Is that usual in modern Hindi? In modern Hindi films? In the social class that appears on TV and studies in Darjeeling? --Error 22:57, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

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Yup, this is usual in modern Hindi films. From my Indian friends, I understand that movies don't really show the full extent of English use in the upper and upper middle classes. These folks speak English among themselves, and use Hindi/Gujerati/whatever only to speak to servants, employees, shop clerks, etc. I recall a comment re Dil Chahta Hai, that in real life the characters would have been speaking English exclusively.

Some people have criticized a few actresses (I forget names) who come from the upper crust for speaking Hindi badly. Zora 02:32, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

I dont think is true for all "upper class" Indians. They speak English or Indic languages when appropriate. Zora, perhaps you should have a little more respect for Indian languages, dont just whatever them. Peace I am invariant under co-ordinate transformations (talk) 07:42, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Quote re opening weeks box office

I started to fix the English in that bit of trivia someone added, and then realized that there was no reference to show that it was true. In fact, I don't think any of the trivia have references. Can someone supply them? Zora 04:43, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] English Translation

For Urdu/Hindi speaking editors, would you think that the title would more accurately be translated as "I'm here, aren't I"? "Na" is generally used as a negative-implying word. Unless of course, "I'm here now" is the translation given by the makers.

[edit] Major Errors

1> Lakshman is Ram's step broter and not half brother.

2> Mrs. Sharma is Shekhar Sharma's second wife ad not his first wife.

3> Raghavan does not kill General Bakshi.

--Rsrikanth05 13:36, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Lakshman is Ram's half-brother; their father is the same. It is never mentioned of Mrs. Sharma is his first or second wife, or even if he had another wife instead of just participating in sexual acts. Last one is correct, though. 68.193.75.149 (talk) 14:43, 17 November 2007 (UTC)