Talk:Mail (application)
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Please do not add the "OS X" only category to this article as the article itself plainly shows why doing so would be inappropriate. Previous versions of Mail.app existed on NeXTSTEP and OPENSTEP, so Mail not only runs on OS X but on NeXTSTEP and OPENSTEP also. The argument that because OS X is related to NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP the category is appropriate is incorrect -- NeXTSTEP and OPENSTEP were never created with Mac OS in mind -- Mac OS X was adapted from OPENSTEP and Rhapsody, not the other way around. Dysprosia 05:35, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
- It doesn't even matter -- Mac OS X Mail started at 1.0. It is a new product. --Steven Fisher 06:09, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
- It does matter. Just because there's a different version number doesn't mean you can deny that Mail.app is derived from the Mail application in NS/OS -- the article makes this clear. Saying that since Mail.app in OS X is somehow different to Mail.app elsewhere and so deserves to be considered "OS X only" makes very little sense. Dysprosia 08:15, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
- I don't think the old article supported the NeXT heritage well. Your latest changes resolve my issue with that, though. Good work. Although now we have NeXTSTEP and NEXTSTEP links within a few lines; I'm unsure which to go with. Can you fix that up? --Steven Fisher 15:53, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
- It does matter. Just because there's a different version number doesn't mean you can deny that Mail.app is derived from the Mail application in NS/OS -- the article makes this clear. Saying that since Mail.app in OS X is somehow different to Mail.app elsewhere and so deserves to be considered "OS X only" makes very little sense. Dysprosia 08:15, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Didn't v1 support HTML?
Didn't Mail v1 support HTML? It's listed here as a new feature in v2.
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- It appears the option to change the outgoing message format existed by version 1.3.3
- http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=151470
- The choices are not explictly metioned however apple documentation on new features with v2 does not include HTML messaging.
- Looks like the choice of RTF vs. plain text for sending goes back at least to the first release os x version.
- http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106189
- That however would not mean HTML support was also present. I will investigate further before updating the article.
- --Reeves87gmailcom 19:11, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
- After searching on google and apples documentation the only item of HTML specific support I could find was the "Add Hyperlink..." option introduced in v2. Unless someone knows otherwise I would say previous versions could not compose HTML. Apple did however change the rendering engine for incoming HTML messages about version 1.3.3 perhaps this is what you were thinking of.
- --Reeves87gmailcom 20:13, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Version history
I would like to see a version history similar to what is setup for iSync. Reeves87gmailcom 19:53, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Mail Icon.png
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[edit] Mail.app History
Here is a good appleinsider article that traces Mail.app's history and includes many screen shots. Maybe this could be added to the external links section. It would be nice if the NeXT versions were added to the version history. More dates would also be nice. For instance, when was the 1st version released? I believe Mail.app goes back to 1988 with the early releases of NEXTSTEP. I don't think we need to have a separate article for NeXTMail. NeXTMail and Mail.app are the same program. Come to think, NeXTMail should be added to the "aka" at the top of the article. --Coremont (talk) 18:58, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
