Talk:Maidstone East Line

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[edit] Ashford extent

I'm unclear as how to deal with the lines beyond Ashford as the services / lines conflict here has me quiet confused. as far as I'm aware the Maidstone east services start and commence from Ashford, but i could be wrong so I've set it up like that. Ashford itself really does need a look at as i can't get my head around it.Pickle 04:42, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Think this has been resolved in my mind, some service terminate at Maidstone East, Some at Ashford, other continue onwards (Canterbry, Thanet, Dover, etc) Pickle 14:05, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Please may I be of suggesting, that Ashford be treated as a separate article, all of its own. I beleive it to be deserving of such. Sheepcot 22:19, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
This was one of the first articles i played with, when many of the additional icons weren't available. Also Google earth and msn local live aerial photos don't show the current layout (they predate CTRL phase 1) so i can't work out the really intricate detail without popping down there. But a separate Ashford plan at Ashford station article showing all the depots, past lines, etc would be really useful. Pickle 22:26, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Citations Missing

I am apologising most profusely, but this article is lacking of citations, so I am having to add a header to say this. Please do not be taking of any offence. It is purely a reminder. Sheepcot 22:19, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Renaming

In railway circles this route used to be called "BTR2" or "Boat Train Route 2". Post-1993, it was re-termed as "CTR2" of Channel Tunnel Route 2". Quite what it will get re-termed once the CTRL finally has its own dedicated route is anyones guess. Personally, I think that "Maidstone East Line" is nice and simple ... and "does what it says on the tin"! Canterberry 20:25, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I mentioned renaming in the article summary because when i (i think) first created this page i wasn't thinking! Convention is "A to B line" so the current "B via C line" is no good if the it doesn't mention the start (ie Swanley) or that its from London. As for in "railway circles", i see why as its still used extensively for Channel Tunnel freight. Pickle 20:32, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Map

I have removed the 'mapneeded=yes' from the tag, as we have maps. Canterberry 20:53, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was move, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 05:52, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Ashford via Maidstone East Line → Maidstone East Line — I believed this is a more concise and simpler name for this line —Canterberry 21:05, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
  • Oppose IMHO naming convetion is the "A to B line" thus it should be called the "Swanley to Ashford line", although the "A to B (via C) line" (like Ashford to Ramsgate (via Canterbury West) line) makes the most sense. The "Maidstone East line" makes it sound like its a terminous line at Maidstone East rather than a main line across Kent. Pickle 01:23, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
  • Looking through a search, this seems to be common usage, as well as being used on some official sites so i will say support. E.g. here and here. Simply south 20:22, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

Naming Conventions There are many lines with the name "The {name} Line". Examples include Oxted Line, Alton Line,Bexleyheath Line, Hastings Line,Greenwich Line. Canterberry 07:45, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Fair point, what do other editors think? Pickle 20:00, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
See my reasoning for support. Simply south 20:23, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
I have been looking at my QUAIL Railway Track Diagrams for this area and the lines between Swanley and Ashford are named "Up Maidstone" and "Down Maidstone". I interpret this as meaning that the lines are known as the "Maidstone Lines". Canterberry 00:41, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
"Maidstone Line" or "Maidstone Lines" is confusing as the Medway Valley Line also goes to Maidstone, so at the very least the name needs to say this is the line that goes Maidstone East. Pickle 03:12, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.