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[edit] Badly written article
There are 3 things that make it so. (1) Too few references (2) The authors non neutral viewpoint....Like in the people section "The people of Madurai are amicable, hospitable, and deeply respect and value their traditions. " These kind of sentences DO NOT belong in an encyclopedia. This pattern is repeated in the entire article. Another example is in the "present problem" section, where the author wrote "The elite and professionals who ought to guide their fellow citizens into the new economy shrug away from their responsibilities, and worse, move to other cities looking for greener pastures and settle down there" I would like to remind the author that this is an encyclopedia not an opinion essay on what some one OUGHT to do. 71.174.89.104 (talk) 18:23, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] General Standards
The whole article suffers from very poor grammar, irrelevant information, and a bit of Vandalism. (What's about the salem thing?) I've started the process of cleaning it up and am halfway through the History part. Hopefully I'll finish it soon.
If you have any ideas, let's discuss.
[edit] Origin of Name
Enthusiasm should not lead to distortion of history. Madurai was always known as Madhura. It was Tamilized as Madurai. It is preposterous to claim that the name evolved from Marudhai.
- Any idea if the Madurai bench is a circuit bench or a permanent bench? -- Sundar (talk · contribs) 06:35, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)
- As far as my knowledge goes, it's a permanent bench. Refer to http://www.tn.gov.in/policynotes/admn_of_justice.htm. But I'm still not sure of the number of districts under Madurai jurisdiction.. 12, 14 or 16? ~elviajero (talk · contribs)
Per this it is 12. Also, the jurisdiction question is interesting. Because, by virtue of being benches of the high court both the Chennai bench and Madurai bench must have jurisdiction all over Tamil nadu. But, the registry will take care that the cases from these regions alone are posted to the Madurai bench. So, perhaps an emergency case may be taken up by either bench. -- Sundar (talk · contribs) 04:44, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)
Sundar,
Appreciating your contributions. Good work.
//Madurai was always known as Madhura//
- Only North people called it like that
//preposterous to claim that the name evolved from Marudhai//
- There is nothing preposterous. This is also a claim. There is 50% chance. As per Tamil Literature, Marutham is a type of "Thinai". So, we can add this claim in the article.
Nobody knows about the exact reason for the name "Madurai" as it is not a recently-built city.
Even before 2500 years, madurai was mentioned in literatures.( It could have been someother madurai near seashore. )
We can include about the Old Madurai also, Which hosted Mudal, Irandam Thamizh sangams. References are there in Sangam Literatures. Thanking you once again.
-- Sathish
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.145.159.116 (talk) 10:21, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] De Morgan
Wow! I didn't know De Morgan (remember De Morgan's theorems?!) was born in Madurai. Many thanks to whoever added this piece of info!! ~elviajero (talk · contribs)
[edit] Notable people
I've removed a couple of names from the list of notable people born in Madurai. I've also removed external links to two Telugu pages and Sourashtra college since I don't think they are relevant to this topic for the following reasons.
- I'm in principle opposed to such lists in an article about places.
- We need to talk about the place and not about individuals
- Notability is subjective
- It is tough to determine the "native placefor someone. For example, Kamal Hassan was listed in the Chennai article, whereas he was born in Paramakudi.
- These lists tend to be very long and if at all, belong to separate articles of themselves
-- Sundar \talk \contribs July 8, 2005 05:15 (UTC)
[edit] Population figures
It's mentioned that Sourashtrians make up for about 20-30% of Madurai's population. I think they do, but in the absence of any official figures to substantiate this claim, it's best to say that they maintain a significant presence in the city and not give any numbers. Do let me know if you disagree. ~elviajero (talk · contribs), Jul 8, 2005
- Being a Maduraiite, I feel that the population of Sourashtrians will be around 20% in Madurai City. Any way, we can't put any figures without a citable reference. -- Sundar \talk \contribs July 8, 2005 05:15 (UTC)
[edit] External links
Some anonymous user had re-inserted the external link to Telugu Association of North America (Looks like someone is trying to promote their website by adding a link in here, which is not right). I've removed it as I don't think it's relevant to this article. Sure, Telugu is a great language, and Madurai may have a minority Telugu speaking population, but it's not appropriate to have this link, and for that matter, any language related links on this page. The focus should be on the place, not on the languages spoken there. ~elviajero (talk · contribs), Jul 9, 2005
Someone has re-inserted the Telugu Association of North America link, again. I've reverted the insertion again, but I sure do think this guy is going to put it back after a few days. This person has also added this link in Coimbatore, Tanjore and Chennai pages. ~elviajero (talk · contribs), Jul 17, 2005
It is certainly not appropriate to have a link to an association dealing with Telugu people in USA. However, I would like to point out that the glorious contribution of Telugu Nayaks was deliberately downplayed in the article. All Madurai people should remember that but for Viswanatha Nayak and Tirumala Nayak, the present day Madurai would have been bereft of its great temples and some other places of worship present their place.
[edit] Image copyright
Elviajero, can you please update the image with it's copyright status? The referenced site seems to suggest that the photo might not be released under any of the licenses that would allow us to use it. Refer to WP:IUP for more information. Calvinkrishy 09:18, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] The Madurai of the Sangam Era
It'll be interesting if someone can fish information about Madurai of the Sangam era and the exact manner in which it was burnt as described in the Silappadikaram. I am doing some amateur look at records and geological information, which points out to a possible minor volcanic eruption in the 3rd Century BCE. I still need to get hard evidence, but I want to know if anyone else has a similar hypothesis in relation to its destruction. There is a definite record of what is interpreted as a Tsunami occuring after the burning indicating some geological (seismic?) event. --Beta 17:19, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
- OTOH, I only remember that Kannagi cut off her left breast and threw at Madurai to initiate a devastating fire. But, your hypothesis seems interesting. Let me see if I get something. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 03:44, September 6, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Girls Education in Madurai
I have removed some reference to school education for girls. Since I was born in Madurai, and I have been living here in Madurai for the past 35 years, I know Madurai very well. There are 3 exclusive women colleges and hundreds of Girls schools. Can any body get a seat for a relative girl of mine this year. I think the writer has worn some colored glasses. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.11.89.207 (talk • contribs)
- Yes. Much of that section is personal opinion. The article needs to be written in an encyclopedic manner. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 12:18, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Education section
I think this section currently is just listing schools in Madurai. This is not what the section is supposed to be. We need to cut it down to only those that are "noteworthy" either by age or for some other reason. It would be great if someone familiar with Madurai can do the edits or at least provide the information in this talk page. ɤіɡʍаɦɤʘʟʟ 21:58, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Irrelevent message
"At the time of the 2001 census it was the second largest city in the state of Tamil Nadu after Chennai." -- this message is totally irrelevent. What is necessity of writing old statistic ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.92.103.93 (talk) 09:20, 26 April 2007 (UTC).
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[edit] inconsistent data
In the geography section:
Madurai, with an area of 52 km² (now extended up to 130 km²)[3] is located at 9.93° N 78.12° E.[4] It has an average elevation of 101 meters above Mean Sea Level.
In the Infobox:
Area:109 km² (42 sq mi) Elevation: 8 m (26 ft) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tcp-ip (talk • contribs) 19:27, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
