Talk:Madrid Barajas International Airport
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[edit] Aerolineas Argentinas
Aerolíneas doesn't fly and will not fly from Madrid to Beijing or Shanghai. The reference is outdated, those flights were introduced and later suspended. Thus, I remove the destinations from the list.--Estradin 13:49, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
I have edited the page to add the date of the inaguration of the metro extension to T4 : First week of May 2007 , probably May 2 .
Included a link to a ministry of infrastructure document , relating to the Cercanias link between Chamartin and MAD T4 .
Include the mention to "Module D" , and the correct amount of debris :40,000 tonnes .
Move the "2006 bombings" to a less relevant space , at the bottom of the page . I suggest to the editor to remove that section as soon as possible . We cannnot tolerate cobard terrorist to influence us .
Recover some photographs I added some months ago , and I have seen removed most of them . The photos are good , and the architecture spectacular , so those photos are relevant to the article. MAD T4 has been awarded multiples times for it's architecture and some photos of the terminal are relevant to the article.
I have removed the reference to Skytrax for 2 reasons
1) Skytrax is know for giving awards and punctuations based on who is paying . The airlinequality.com website is a proof of that . It has no credibility as an independent airline information source , it's just a public image agency .
2) The 3 star awarded to MAD by Skystrax was given before Terminal 4 and the new runaways were inagurated , and hasn't been revised since. So it's an outdated reference.
I would suggest to the editor to eliminate any reference to Skytrax or airlinequality.com from Wikipedia.org , due to it's lack of indepence and objetivity .
[edit] stats
2006 Spanish Airport passenger statistics here:
http://www.aena.es/csee/ccurl/Estadis2006.pdf
http://www14.aena.es/csee/ccurl/Anyo%202006.pdf
Madrid, Barajas airport: 45,530,010 Barcelona, El Prat airport: 30,008,152 Palma de Mallorca, Son Sant Joan airport: 22,408,302 Málaga, Picasso airport: 13,076,252 Gran Canaria, Gando airport: 10,286,635
I have corrected the article because wrongly say that Richard Rogers was the designer of MAD T4 .
That's not true.
In the mid 90 a number of reputed architects ( Calatrava , Bofill , Lamela ... ) bid for the project of the new Terminal 4 at Madrid Barajas .
Estudio Lamela , www.lamela.com , won the pre-selection process .
Only after passing the pre-selection by AENA , Carlos Lamela went to London to visit Richard Rogers to get them involved also in the project, because of the experience of Rogers in the development of LHR T5 .
The Lamela-Rogers won the final bid of AENA to Calatrava's project , with this one .
http://www.lamela.com/nuevo/verFicha.php?idioma=en&id=378
The leading architet team was Estudio Lamela , with Richard Rogers team as secondary architects.
I have corrected the omission of Lamela in the phrase
"On February 5, 2006, the immense Terminal 4, designed by Richard Rogers, and winner of the 2006 Stirling Prize..."
with
"On February 5, 2006, the immense Terminal 4, designed by Estudio Lamela and Richard Rogers, and winners of the 2006 Stirling Prize, was inaugurated..."
The award was granted to the building and because of that in the Stirling ceremony , representatives of AENA ( airport owner ) and Lamela , along with Richard Rogers himself received the prize.
I have notice also that the british press try to eliminate references to Estudio Lamela on the project .
I have modified the link to the
"The Madrid - Barcelona air route is currently the busiest in the world."
To the ORIGINAL SOURCE of the news , the company OAG that suply real-time air traffic information worldwide , and regularly release studies on air traffic worldwide.
To note that MAD-BCN is the busiest route ( Airport to Airport) in term of frecuencies and passengers .
Not confuse that with city pairs.
Also to note that MAD-BCN is a DOMESTIC route .
If we are talking about terminals floor area Madrid-Barajas is the biggest with 1,000,000 sq. meters of terminals (about 11 million sq.ft.), which is about 1.7 times the size of ATL's current terminal complex (including concourses A, B, C, D and E) and twice the size of HKG's terminal.
Anybody knows of any airport in the world , bigger in term of terminal area ?
EUROCONTROL predicts Madrid Barajas will be 2nd European busiest airport in the following years .Document here: http://www.eurocontrol.int/corporate/gallery/content/public/docs/pdf/pressreleases/2006/060328_Mediumtermforecast_final.pdf
I find the "Aerial View" image very interesting, because illustrates perfectly the new Terminal layout .
Now Barajas has 2 terminals, really :
1) Terminal 4 ( and T-4 Satellite that is accesed and exit by the Terminal 4)
2) The 3 adyacents old terminals : T1-T2-T3
Terminal 4, is for exclusive use of Iberia and all other Oneworld . Apparently a "new" layout for the old terminals will be :
T-1: Spanair and all Star Alliance airlines.
T-3: Air Europe and all Sky Team airlines .
T-2: Non-Schengen flights of all the airlines of T-1, T-2 .
Aena around the day 15, publish the statistic of the previous month , here:
Also past years statistics are complete. It's possible of make cross searches, like per example :
How many passengers flew between Madrid Barajas Airport and all the US airports in 2005 ? Answer: 1.356.513 passengers.
How many passengers flew between Madrid Barajas and the UK (all airports)in 2005 ? Answer: 2.051.116
How many passengers flew between Madrid Barajas and Barcelona in 2005 ? Answer: 4.571.073 ( European busiest sector)
Maybe it would be good to include some public opinions about terminal 4, rather than just the marketing info. I pass through this terminal all the time and it adds about 1/2 hour on to the journey. The terminal is huge. You have to walk for ages to get to one point to another through largely unused space, as well you have to catch a train inside the terminal just to get to the gates. I don't see how that reduces the stress of travel.
