Talk:Mad Hatter

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Why is this article needed with this title? What's wrong with Mad Hatter? -- Zoe

For the record: "he is never actually given that name in the book" --Paul A 07:45, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] 10/6

I think that since 10/6 is an irrational number, and Carroll had a mathematics background, the statement on the Hatter's hat that says, "In this style, 10/6" could very likely be a reference to madness, i.e. being irrational, instead of or in addition to the price. If so, I think it would be useful to note in the paragraph concerning the fraction. After all, it does say that the price theory is "commonly believed", and not certain.--Bonzo

10/6 is not an irrational number in the mathematical sense of the word. Irrational numbers are numbers that cannot be expressed as fractions (for example Pi, or the square root of 2) 141.149.45.72 00:59, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was move. —Nightstallion (?) 11:55, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

Hatter (Alice's Adventures in Wonderland) → Mad Hatter – A more intuitive name, and the name usually used for the character in pop culture. I know it isn't actually used in the book, but don't think that's relevant. Robin Johnson 11:13, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~
  • Support as nominator. Robin Johnson 11:13, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Support --Philip Baird Shearer 23:12, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose, but just barely - it's the name everybody uses, which normally would make it a no-brainer, but the fact that it doesn't even exist in the book makes it hard for me to support it. Plus, of course, there's mad hatter (small H) to mildly confuse things. - DavidWBrooks 23:22, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

I know I'm digging this up from 2004, but Wikipedia:Article titles says: article naming should give priority to what the majority of English speakers would most easily recognize, with a reasonable minimum of ambiguity, while at the same time making linking to those articles easy and second nature. Mad Hatter fits both of these much better than the current title. Robin Johnson 11:13, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Wow - that was pretty quick voting - four days, just three people, and zingo! it's done. Is one of you Katherine Harris in disguise? - DavidWBrooks 13:53, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Christ Church

Not everyone reading about the Mad Hatter knows about Oxford Colleges and if read in a straightfoward, this looks like a place name. Thefore I added the info. I can only shake my head on your edit summaries (is that better than nothing?) - how was my addition "incorrect"? If I didn't word it in the best possible manner, why aren't you simply correcting it to a better wording? Str1977 (smile back) 15:34, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Not everyone reading the article will know what an Oxford College is either; we can't explain everything — that's what the internal links are for. "Christ Church College" is simply wrong — something like referring to "Sorbonne University". --Mel Etitis (Talk) 15:55, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
If so, then you could have corrected it. I take it that you have no objection to the current version? Str1977 (smile back) 16:41, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure why you're finding this so hard to understand. I took what was there before to have been perfectly adequate. Your initial change was incorrect, so I reverted it. The new version is fine (though the change was unnecessary), so I've left it. --Mel Etitis (Talk) 18:52, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] satire of heavy tea drinkers?

The Mad Hatter may have been a satire on heavy tea drinkers. I think there was some suspicion about tea's effects on health at the time, to the degree of alarmism. Offhand, I have no sources and it may just be erroneous memory on my part, but it may be worth looking at.--ChrisJMoor 17:00, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requesting information for removal of entry?

The entry has been a part of the 'The Mad Hatter in Popular Culture', a sentence or two, for the past three years. The Google hits remain the same, if not more prolific. Why was it suddenly removed?

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.88.66.50 (talk) 09:23, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mercury poisoning

I am aware of the "Mad as a Hatter" saying deriving from mercury poisoning, but are the symptoms really as they are described in the article? Ivan the Terrible is supposed to have suffered from it, and I'd hardly call him "shy" or a person who "didn't want to be noticed"- albeit whilst accepting that he is nothing like the Hatter either. Not050 (talk)Not050Not050 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 21:41, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Pretty Sure that was poisoning from lead pewter ;). Wht confuses -me- is that I had been taught that curium was often used in place of mercury after it's discovery, which led to madness more akin to that of the Hatter's. I have no citation for this other than teachings of childhood science books and whatnot. Can anyone verify or utterly deny that curium was used in hatting? Thanks --97.91.175.154 (talk) 22:16, 29 March 2008 (UTC) aka MilquetoastCJW