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[edit] MC Hammer?
When did Mac Dre work with MC Hammer? I don't believe he ever did153.18.17.22 21:00, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Michael Simeon was Mac Dre's inspiration. Michael Simeon lives over in Patterson, California. Mac Dre was always hanging out with Michael and they would always create music with eachother or trade lyrics.
I'm pretty sure Mac Dre never worked with Tupac. He was in prison around the time Pac was still in the bay. I'm going to delete this later unless someone can prove otherwise. If you can, give me the name of the track so I can check it out )Drumac 19:26, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Mac Dre also worked with Coolio. Someone should edit the article to show that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.225.250.92 (talk) 19:37, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
One track with both of them is gotta survie but I don't know if they did it together or they just used pacs\'s recordings or something.
Someone keeps adding 2pac to the people Dre's worked with. They have never worked together as far as i know. Theres a young lay song called gotta survive feat. 2pac on it that was released when Dre was in jail that has a sample of Mac Dre on the hook. Thats it. And he never worked with Dr. Dre. In the song get stupid hes joking obviously because the beat is so tight.Drumac 09:08, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Expansion
It would be great if we add some information about his career, such as hit singles collaborations, discography, death, etc... Some background information about the events which inspire some of his songs (such as Romper Room robbery incident) would help as well. --LBMixPro(Speak on it!) July 2, 2005 09:25 (UTC)
- Hear hear. I added a bunch of stuff and fixed some facts, and will try to do some polishing later (links, more elegant sentences/paragraphs, etc). Also, I think something of his friendship and links to other bay area rappers and producers should be noted, though this stuff is harder to root out (I'm thinking of his friendships and beefs with people like Mac Mall, 90's producer Khayree) - not too much, but just a little of the confirmable details. --Clapaucius 00:54, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
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- He did have a beef with mac mall but they 'squashed' it there beef that's why they came out with the U.S. OPEN.
Tupac recorded with ray luv and young lay and they threw a mac dre verse on there....tupac was on that track to begin with not recorded outside the bay.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.48.78.93 (talk) 13:25, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Philanthropist
Was Mac Dre a philanthropist? A casual Google didn't confirm that he is. jareha 17:47, 17 November 2005 (UTC) Mac dre was not a philanthropist thoe he did help a lot of people get their rap careers off the ground.
some other rappers have called him a philanthropist, that is all.Drumac 04:18, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
It's really an opinion. i think he was because he did spend time & money to help young rappers get in the game with his label company.his reputation to help others out philanthropist may not always find universal approval for his/her deeds. Common accusations include supporting an unworthy cause or having selfish motivation at heart —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.149.149.235 (talk) 01:29, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Gansta or Hyphy Rapper?
I contend that Mac Dre is now bettern known as a hyphy rapper... a change that was reverted [1] by User:Khoikhoi. Does anyone else have thoughts on this one way or another? -- Joebeone (Talk) 21:40, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
- "I know, doe ray me /But no I'm not a R&B sanger / I'm a gangster rapper throwin' the middle fanger / To them square rubix cubes, who don't smoke and use / I'm a cutthoat boy and I got a short fuse / I get kind of hyphy when I'm gone off a little Gin" - Boss Tycoon (2002). I would say that he's both? I don't think Hyphy was as much of a genre then as it is now apparently. But I don't think he should be excluded from on or the other personaly. -- Carlos 17:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
I don't think mac dre was a gangsta rapper. Just because he used the term in his rap doesn't make him one. Watch Treal tv. His associates have even said in interviews that he wasn't a street rapper, like some of them are. He was more about macking beezies and writing dope raps. "I'm from the V-a-double l-e-j-o and making dope raps is all i know"153.18.17.22 18:46, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
First and foremost he is a gangsta rapper, listen to Mac Dre's music from 1988 to 2000 and tell me otherwise, the last six years Dre started getting more money and was partying all the time. This was the influence for his new party sound. But listen to the song "Hy Phy" from 2001 with Keak da Sneak and PSD, his verse on that isn't about GHOSTRIDING or even DANCING, its about fucking people up. He didn't specifically try to make hyphy music, he made music to party to, I find it a lot different from the modern hyphy music. Of course Dre (or his death rather) was a huge influence for the modern hyphy scene but we must realize his subject matter was almost strictly gangsta/pimp
I think Mac Dre was a gangsta rapper turned go dumb rapper, and I believe a subgenre called Thizz should be created on this site, as alot of Mac Dre and his labels music produced more club friendly beats than the uptempo hyphy beats and werent concentrated around the drum pattern, resembling more of an offshoot of the Mobb Music. Yet I think Thizz music was really a new type of genre in the bay and because of Mac Dre's death was not able to spring out onto the mainstream like Hyphy has.
Um...Thizz music is the same as hyphy music. If Mac Dre were still alive he would still be making those kinds of songs. Its just other rappers ran with it and now their music is called hyphy. Also, Mac Dre did talk about violence in his songs (like most rappers) but whenever he did it was in a comical way. In "Hy Phy" he talks about being so ripped that he misses 2 times with a punch and choosing the dark side. I would consider him primarily a hyphy rapper. I mean, in the first part of his career before he went to jail he was pretty much a straightfoward rapper, but he changed after stupid doo doo dumb, the album which defined him as a rapper. I consider him the ultimate example of a hyphy artist regardless of how the movement changes.
And what do you mean his subject matter was strictly gangsta/pimp? He was talking about ghostriding the whip, gettin stupid, going dumb, yoking and all that before any of the artists now.
^^ Thats what he did most of his career.. from Young Black Brotha to The Game is Thick 2 he was rapping about macking and being a gangsta.. of course he rapped about that too but thats not what his career as a whole was based on
Mac Dre might have talked about being a gangster, hell he might have even been one, but he was not a gangster rapper, he just talked about drugs and being a boss. But gangster rap is more about the streets and murdering people and thier beats are faster than hyphy music. Mac Dre might have wanted to be a gangster rapper, but sadly he wasn't well not at least when his carrer ended, be was more gangster at the begining of his carrer but as rapping skills declined, his gangster-ness did too.
He in alot of peoples minds put hyphy music in the rap game. but he was also a gangsta rapper since he talked about "gangster" stuff. so i think ther is no or .. but simply an and —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.149.149.235 (talk) 01:17, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Mac Dre's gang affiliation
mac dre was affiliated with the nortenoes he was a black and brown rida thug.
I'm from the bay, and I never listened to Mac Dre because I always heard he was a Noreteño (the gang I think this article mentions). I remember when he died I saw some RIP Mac Dre with Norty symbols around Hick's name. Can anyone confirm this for us?--Taboo Tongue 16:29, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
- Thats strange. Arent nortenos a primarily latino/hispanic gang? Romper Room Gang was mostly African Americans I believe. He might have had a following within the nortenos but he was popular with all groups of people. Skhatri2005 17:05, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
yee imma a hispanic and nortenos are a hispanic gang i wud tink dat he was part of the bloods he mite be chillen with every body im from the bay and been listenin to his music way back and he neva mentions anything abouty being affiliated i would say he both because hyphy has been around in the bay fo awhile just not everyone knew about it till it wsas introduced by e-40 and his hit single tell me when to go thizz is used in most of the hyphy songs which i think that mac dre was the creator of the word thizz u can hav a different opinionbut thats what i think bout it
mac dre ran with the Nortenos he did a song with tha nortenos called "ROMPED OUT NORTENO"'dis is da smash cuthoats n X4's' x4 are 14 wich is tha 14th letter in tha alphabet "N" yaddididdaaaaaaa
rblimas - He was not a norteno. he did a song with a norteno but HE IS NOT A NORTENO + the song he did was not called "Romped Out Norteno" it was called "Romped Out"
Hes not gang affiliated especially not a norteno —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.102.155.4 (talk) 17:29, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Mac Dre was never in a gang unless you count the Romper Room, but all his associates say he was never involved in any of that. He just had friends who were.
-- If he was deep in a gang don't you think he would have rapped about it more through his huge career, I do.
if u haten,fuck u!!!!!!1, MAC DREEZY 4 life.
FIRST OF ALL LET ME CLEAR MY THROAT!
Mac dre a lyrisist* that had one of the dopest styles still known to man, mac dre was a thug ass nigga and you gots to come up cd's aren't going to put food in yr belly.
so let me clear it cause im tired and ready to hit the hay, mac dre "alledgely" robbeda bank in vallejo they never had proof of him robbing besides furhl rapping saying "yr never gunna catch me."
so you figure he just did this new thing started chewing thizz (xtc) getting completely outa whack and feeling himself, but shit anotha fallen west coast soilder.
well thats my theory anyways .
We will never know for sure whether he was involved in robbing the bank or not, but he said he was innocent, why not believe him? He had already served the prison sentence, why would he lie about it? Also, I have heard another one of his rapper friends (forgot which one) say that while he was out doing that shit, Dre wasn't involved in any of that. The only reason they went after him was because he hung out with them and he was a target because of his popularity. So basically he went to jail for not squealing on his homies.Drumac 09:00, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Mac dre was not a norteno or a blood or a crip.but none of u must actually listen to mac dre because if you want an affiliation, how about the BGF-otherwise known as the Black Guerilla Family.a very popular Black prison Gang, espicially in the bay. he probably did run with nortenos because a surteno would never hang out with a black dude or a norteno,so the enemy of my enemy is my friend. and of course they would never admit to it because prison gangs are like the mafia,they dont exist,which means deny everything. and the penalty for giving up such information is usually death. Maybe he wasnt hardcore BGF but somebody had to look out for him while he was lockd up. it doesnt matter how big u r on the outside, u aint shit on the inside,even John Gotti got punked when he went to prison. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.4.202.123 (talk) 16:17, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm going to keep my post short && simple. Mac Dre WAS NOT in a gang. & i agree He Probly did hang with Nortenos. but i do know he didn't like the gang , [74]Folks[GD] , & since someone will most likely want evidence , listen to his songs he makes numerous comments about things & if not him .. then alot of cutthroat comittee. Making Comments about asking your folks because they aint no joke. Which Joke is an "offinsive" word to the folk nation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.149.149.235 (talk) 01:14, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Aliases
you should only include something as an alias if hes called himself that more than once. lots of rappers call themselves things, it doesn't mean thats their nickname.
- Are aliases encyclopedic? That is, I'm not sure this is the place to enumerate aliases, no? -- Joebeone (Talk) 18:23, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
E-40s section has a list of aliases. I don't see why not.
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- Consider signing your entries in Talk pages. Just because e-40's page has it, that doesn't mean that Mac Dre's article should have it. What I'm asking is if you opened up an encyclopedia entry on Mac Dre, would a list of his aliases be a central part of it? I don't think so, what do you think? -- Joebeone (Talk)
yes, but then again wikipedia has a lot of stuff that other encyclopedia's don't68.164.81.33 04:29, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
I believe all that really matters is if you like the music. A pile of crap can make a good song. A good artist can make a stupid song. I don't like listening to all his stuff. I'm sure there are things about his life I wouldn't think were good. But who cares. Some of his stuff is pretty good. Did he mean for people to sit around and philosophize about him or just listen?
Street Sampras really isn't one of his alias', also how can someone "forget" Ronald Dregan or The Genie of the Lamp or The Rapper Gone Bad. I don't see why this page is protected, could do with a few facts cleared up ! JakeAKAmd 08:15, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Mac dre was part of the Crip gang with his fellow rappers and as we all should know Nortenos and crips get along and thats why mac dre did a song with dubee(a Norteno rapper) called Romped Out Norteno And Crips anr considered a Norteno Because thats who he ran with.I should know i love mac dres music thats all i listen 2 lol rip 2 him though and —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.113.49.131 (talk) 18:17, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Mac Dre Rolled with The nortenos! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.163.0.42 (talk) 10:46, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Achievements
shouldn't this article mention mac dre's achievements? He was the first rapper to record lyrics while in prison, not to mention the first to release 2 albums at the same time.68.164.81.33 04:29, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
add dre bledsoe to his aka's
== Headline text == == 'love you 4 life thizz
[edit] death
I keep hearing different stories,
My girlfriend is a Norteno, she's black, althought people think she's latina.she looks Latina Norteno are a Latino Group, but there are quite a few Black members. I'm still not sure if Mac Dre was Norteno, Personally I dont think so, HOWEVER, I've seen him in alot or Norteno Murals My girl says he was Norteno, but my girl says alot of stuff that aint true I live in Inglewood, LA and one thing I noticed is that Nortenos have black members, but Surenos DON'T So I have no Idea. I'm a BLACK man. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.108.83.65 (talk) 00:58, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
macdre got hislife tookin away —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.173.196.94 (talk) 16:12, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Ok, just because someone has died who is Black or Hispanic, does NOT mean that it is gang-related. Do not let that simple mind state speak for every African-American and Hispanic. Mac Dre was not a Norteno, and even if he was, that still doesn't mean his death is gang-related. —Preceding unsigned comment added by INSBDominator (talk • contribs) 20:44, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Best Rapper Of All Times
Andre"mac dre"Hicks was a bay area rapp legend known all around the bay area.Raised in Vallejo born in Oakland and he was always yokin,going dumb,and ghostridin his Murder[Mercedes Benz]throughout Oakland.Known for his slappin beats and nockin lyrics the mac named dre was a founder of thizz ent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.132.202.148 (talk) 20:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
