Talk:M270 Multiple Launch Rocket System

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[edit] MLRS search resolts

why the MLRS search leads to this article? there are many other MLRS systems besides this american one. for exmaple the Russian 9k58 Smerch MLRS, which is by the way considered the best in the world[1]

in my opinion if there is no general MLRS article then at least the search should lead to exmaples of diffrent MLRS and not specificly to this one.

i dont know how to fix it and wont do it based on my opinion alone anyway, but this is realy hurting the nutrality of Wikiby prefering this MLRS for no apperant reason

thank you! :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.69.237.154 (talk) 21:55, 14 October 2007 (UTC) ==

This equipment is known simply as MLRS throughout the US and British armies. As thios article is in English, I think it is logical for "MLRS" to be directed here, Perhaps a disambiguation link is necessary. TinyMark 16:07, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
I agree with the thought to direct "MLRS" here because M270s are known worldwide by this name in a way other systems are not, and the M270 actually is not very much like the rocket on a truck MRLs in use around the world (like the one mentioned above). This is a very well known weapon that has been used many times to great effect. MLRS has completely redefined artillery, and is the cornerstone of several Armies around the world. Other rocket artillery systems have different names. I wish the GSRS (USA's original name) had not been renamed MLRS at NAto's request, but as a result M270 is pretty much what "MLRS" refers to out there in the real world. As far as the bravado of the Russian 9k58 claims, I don't recall that system ever being effective on the battlefield. It's not tracked and is basically worthless in mud or terrain (in comparison with the M270, which is as off road capable as any other bradley fighting vehicle.) The M270 can reload itself in 8 minutes from a trailer, truck or even off the ground, while the 9k58 requires a truck and crane like other antiquated models. The M270 was accurate to ten feet in 1982 at ranges triple the max range (and dreadful accuracy) of the 9k58. Also, the M270 is far, far more reliable and versatile with chem, cluster, precision, survelliance and mine munitions (and is even used to take out individual snipers in Iraq and Lebanon). There really isn't much comparison between the systems. A single person can drive and fire a M270 if you don't mind the driver's blind spot. the 9k58 takes four to operate. The amazing breakthrough of the M270 is why it's so important to over a dozen nations, and hundreds have been exported. Only about 35 9k58s have been exported. The most effective 9k58 munitions actually forgo the glasnos system in favor of the GPS system. I just don't think that it's fair to lump all these trucks with missiles into the same category as the MLRS... in fact, it's largely marketing. The MLRS is such a revolutionary system, so even the old 240 MRLs are called MLRS when they go up for sale. Like the Ekranoplans (that largely emulated the spruce goose but all crashed) are promoted as decades more advanced than the rest of the world in ground effect tech, the Russian military is very keen on inflating the performance of their systems without any evidence. The link that the unsigned comment above posted says that his "best rocket system in the world" weighs 42 tons, takes 36 minutes to reload, fires 12 munitions, max submunition # is under 300 bomblets, and the range is max 70 km. M270s weigh around 27 tons, take 8 minutes to reload (that's a very slow time for an M270 crew), fires 12 rockets of nearly 700 bomblets each, and the max range is several hundred kilometers. I noticed that the link posted above pointed out a very vague system for guiding the rocket in flight. M270s also have several guided rocket variants. The link asserts that the 9k58 is the only MRL that can program its rockets, but this is positively false, as M270s certainly do program munitions. Not to sound trollish. That's not my aim. It's just that there really isn't anything else out there like the MLRS. The claim above that there are other cutting edge systems like it are false. The proper general term for these vehicles should be MRL, and it would be if the M270 MLRS wasn't so revered by the Russians that they apply its name to various trucks with rockets on the back. 70.112.220.223 (talk) 05:25, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Norway did NOT sell MLRS to LTTE

Norway has NOT sold any MLRS to LTTE. All of Norways MLRS are currently mothballed, and a sale to LTTE would certainly have caused an uproar in Norway. Deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.109.101.194 (talk) 20:10, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Something wrong?

So, is there any mention to the reason why the Dutch, Norwegian and Danish armies no longer use the M270 MLRS? Have they replaced with a newer system, or have they reverted back to guns, or is it just a general shrinking in army size (even then, artillery seems a fairly important thing to keep)? 58.7.187.79 (talk) 10:37, 21 April 2008 (UTC)