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[edit] old talk
Who invented the lunar rover?
LRV Deployment procedure diagram is referenced in the text however the diagram is not included in the entry. The detail of the text is excellent and informative.
Did the astronauts take critical components from the rovers back with them or deactive them before they left? i.e. If a future mission were to land near the Apollo sites would it be possible they'd still work and someone could just "hop on" and drive them again?
The Rover was developed by Boeing with help from Delco and GM (the automobile mfg.) If the batteries were replaced, it is possible they would still continue to work. 67.142.130.32 05:32, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
I am interested into more details about how the luna rovers where stowed in the lander. The rovers seem so large compared to the available storage space. Are there any photographs of the folded up rovers etc. 82.5.241.137 15:42, 23 June 2007 (UTC) Peter Howell
[edit] Expansion
Can someone add a bit about other versions of the LR considered? Also, are rovers concepts being worked on yet for Constellation? CFLeon 04:26, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Proposed move
I propose moving this article to Lunar rover (Apollo), and then making the article with this name a disambiguation page. There needs to also be coverage of the missions shown on {{Lunar Rovers}}. (sdsds - talk) 14:28, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Current status
Where is the buggy now and what is it's presnt state? TomGreen 22:21, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
- It would be good for the article to cover this better. It currently reads, "Four lunar rovers were built, one each for Apollo missions 15, 16, and 17, and one that was used for spare parts after the cancellation of further Apollo missions. There were other LRV models built: a static model to assist with human factors design, an engineering model to design and integrate the subsystems, two 1/6 gravity models for testing the deployment mechanism, a 1-gravity trainer to give the astronauts instruction in the operation of the rover and allow them to practice driving it, a mass model to test the effect of the rover on the Apollo Lunar Module (LM) structure, balance and handling, a vibration test unit to study the LRV's durability and handling of launch stresses, and a qualification test unit to study integration of all LRV subsystems."
- The three used for the Apollo missions are still on the surface of the Moon. (This is already mentioned later in the article.) It would be neat to include information about the fate of the test models, if a reliable source for that information could be found. (sdsds - talk) 22:26, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Any concensus on this?
One anonymous user seems to feel it neccessary to specify the land rover picture is "supposedly" on the moon. Am I wrong in assuming this view probably doesn't reflect the general consensus here, or am I way off base? - Vianello (talk) 01:44, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Your understanding is correct: use of the word "supposedly" is not appropriate in that caption. (sdsds - talk) 02:38, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- There are many credible people claiming that the moon landing is a hoax (see the article "Apollo Moon Landing Hoax"). How do we KNOW for certain that it wasn't set up at a movie studio sound stage? We don't. that's why it's "supposedly" taken on the moon. If we state it as a fact, then we do a disservice to the readers of Wikipedia on not being unbiased. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.125.217.40 (talk) 02:48, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
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- You are correct, and those views are well covered at Apollo Moon Landing hoax conspiracy theories. It doesn't make sense to rehash here a discussion of those views, but you might want to also look at the article on the Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment, which allows scientists on Earth (lots of them, not just a conspiratorial few) to use retroreflectors placed on the Moon's surface to exactly determine the distance to the Moon. Retroreflectors don't exist naturally on the Moon's surface; something placed them there! (sdsds - talk) 03:33, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
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- The Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment doesn't prove anything. 1) If the moon landing was faked, couldn't the LLRE have been faked too? 2) if LLRE is real, it could've been placed there by a robot or just dropped on the moon without man actually landing there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.125.217.40 (talk) 06:36, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
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- The problem is, we DON'T state anything as fact. It's just a picture of the lunar rover. The picture's caption said nothing about where it is, or what it's doing. Why bother adding that it's a picture on the moon for the pure purpose of then immediately disputing that claim? It would be like adding to a caption of a photo of John F. Kennedy, "Supposedly assassinated by a lone gunman." Yes, it's true, and yes, it's supposed, but what purpose does it serve to say that? It's not really fair, appropriate, productive, or necessary to assert a fact just purely to cast aspersions on it when that's not even the topic of the page. I probably sound way more hostile than I intend to when I say this, but it really seems like this attempt to make the picture "objective" is just an attempt to smuggle in a POV comment. It corrects a subjectivity problem that didn't exist before the 'correction' was made. - Vianello (talk) 09:55, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
On a side note, let's keep on-topic. This isn't meant to be a debate over whether anyone ever did anything on any celestial body besides Earth. This is PURELY a discussion about whether or not to include a comment that at least two users so far have stated they find dubious (not in its truth, but in its constructiveness and intent). - Vianello (talk) 09:58, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
