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[edit] Merge proposal

Someone has suggested, without giving any reasons in support of his idea, that the article "Subsistit in" in Lumen Gentium be merged here.

  • Oppose "Subsistit in" is an important concept in its own right, requiring a separate article of appropriate length, not a mere section of another article. In view of the shortness of the Lumen Gentium article, merging the other material into it would turn it into an article on "subsistit in" but with an inaccurate title. Lima (talk) 06:35, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Mildly Support The significance of this phrase comes from its selection by the Council fathers for this particular document. I have no major objection to a separate article continuing to exist, but the merger does make sense.ClaudeMuncey (talk) 19:06, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Oppose "Subsistit in" (SI) is a matter that the Church itself considers worthy of its own special recognition and discussion -- hence the reason why this separate article exists. While he rest of the text of LG is a restatement of long-held ecclesial doctrines, SI is regarded by many as a novelty of Vatican II requiring frequent clarification by those who argue it is not a novelty. It is a on-going dispute in a way that nothing else in LG is (or was). patsw (talk) 01:00, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Strongly Oppose This is a very important RC topic, which needs more meat, better linking and better wording and additions. There also have been new publications shedding important light on this issue see Sebastian Tromp--Ambrosius007 (talk) 11:13, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

--Ambrosius007 (talk) 11:13, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

  • Strongly Oppose. This is a major topic in all ecumenical discussion. It is, however, only one of many, many topics covered in Lumen Gentium.EastmeetsWest (talk) 02:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

--If there is no disagreement, I will remove the merger proposal by June 8, 2008.--Ambrosius007 (talk) 15:27, 1 June 2008 (UTC)