Talk:Luhansk

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Please see the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ukrainian_subdivisions. Irpen 20:23, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Requested move

Talk:Luhans'k – Luhans'k → Luhansk – to reverse the current redirect. Luhansk is currently used in English language media and most encyclopedias and dictionaries. Discussed and arguments in support presented at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ukrainian subdivisions.

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  • Support This name corresponds to the standard transliteration used for geographic names in Ukraine, and is the most likely version to be used in the English media. —Michael Z. 2005-04-6 20:56 Z
  • Support. Use for more common English name recommended. Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 06:09, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Support . This name is used in today's media. This name is also used in Britannica and Oxford dictionary articles. Therefore, Luhansk, should be used for the article name. Lugansk and Voroshilovgrad may be used in other articles depending on the context. Irpen 17:51, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)

This article has been renamed as the result of a move request. violet/riga (t) 11:16, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] I have removed the incorrect text from the article

'Historically the territory that was inhabited by the Don Cossacks, which explains the very large Russian minority and the almost dominant Russian language'.

Historically only one forth or even fifth of the Lugansk region was inhabited by Don Cossacks, and that does not explain almost dominant Russian language in the region cities. Don Cossacks did not founded Luhansk and never were its major inhabitants.

Also I have added all Luhansk twin cities (only Cardiff was mentioned before).

[edit] Great page!

What a nice, concise and beautiful article! Thanks for this, Hu Gadarn 21:38, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What is so called "Luhansky Raion"? There's nothing like that here :)

"as well as the administrative center of the surrounding Luhansky Raion (district) within the oblast"

There's no such "raion", because raion is the Ukrainian word for oblast' county and city district.

Luhansk itself consists of 4 districts:

1. Leninsky (Ле́нінський район, Lenin's), former Klimovsky (Клімовський, Klim's in the name of Kliment Voroshilov) — central district.

2. Zhovtnevy (Жовтне́вий, October's in Ukrainian) — the most populous district of the city.

3. Artemivsky (Арте́мівський, Artem's in the nickname of Soviet military leader Sergeev).

4. Kamyanobridsky (Кам’янобрі́дський, Kamennobrodsky in Russian, named after Kamyany Brid village — its name means Stone Ford) — the oldest district of the city.

As for the oblast' counties (such as Milovskyi, Novoaidarskyi, Novopskovskyi etc.), Luhansk does not belong to any of them.

There are so called міста обласного значення (cities of oblast' importance), they are Alchevs'k, Antratsyt, Bryanka, Kirovs'k, Krasnyy Luch, Krasnodon, Lisichans'k, Luhans'k, Pervomays'k, Roven'ki, Rubizhne, Severodonets'k, Stakhaniv and Sverdlovs'k.

Also there are cities, that are within the jurisdiction of the other cities or raions, e.g. Almazna is within the jurisdiction of Stakhaniv, one of Oleksandrivs'ks is within the jurisdiction of the Luhansk city Artemivsky raion Council (Rada) etc.

All such cities (cities of oblast' importance and 'satellite' cities) do not belong to any raion and have their own territory.

Exceptions are only Popasna and Krasnodon cities, which are the capitals of Popasniansky and Krasnodons'ky raions, but exception prooves the rule: raion administrations and councils are located in these cities, but these government bodies govern only the raion territories, and not the cities, where they are located.

I hope this information can be used somehow for the article correction (I don't try to correct the article myself, because I am not the English native, and my text can be overfilled with mistakes).

[edit] Don Cossacks in Luhansk

There is no such thing as Soviet Occupation, the city was part of the Don Cossack Host prior to that, and its name during Soviet time was Voroshilovgrad

When Luhansk was a part of the Don Cossack Host? It was a part of Zaporozhian Host till the second half of 18th century. Then it was on the territory of Slavo-Serbia. And left a part of Yekaterinoslav Governorate till 1918 and became one of the cities of Ukrainian People's Republic. You shouldn't confuse Luhansk on the right bank of Siversky Donets and little town Stanytsia Luhanska on the left bank. (Siversky Donets was such a border) Stanytsia Luhanska really was in Don Cossack Host till 1918. But Stanytsia Luhanska, not Luhansk. They are absolutely different settlements, they names are similar because of Luhanka River they both stay on. --Riwnodennyk ✉ 17:37, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Page move was a mistake

Page move from Lugansk to Luhansk was a mistake:

  • The official web site of the city is http://www.lugansk.ua/
  • Kiev (which is sometimes refered to as Kyiv) establishes a strong precedent on English WP, and current naming is simply inconsistent. Please refer to Talk:Kiev/naming details on methodology and policies that apply.
  • Google search for lugansk returns 1 160 000 hits, while Luhansk returns 275 000. This suggests that Lugansk is by far the most used name in English. The picture at Google Scholar is similar.
  • Top results return, Lugansk state medical university (http://www.lsmu.com/) and Lugansk art gallery (http://www.artgallery.com.ua/index.php).


The page should be moved back to Lugansk.

Heptor talk 10:34, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

First site isn't official at all. All other links are just links to firms. As contrasted with it, main Luhansk university gives only Luhansk. --Riwnodennyk ✉ 14:17, 12 May 2008 (UTC)