Talk:Lucknow

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

WikiProject_India This article is within the scope of WikiProject India, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of India-related topics. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page.
B This article has been rated as B-Class on the quality scale. (see comments)
This article is maintained by the Indian cities workgroup.
More information about this article...
Maintained The following user(s) are actively contributing to this article and may be able to help with questions about verification and sources:
Aksera ,Einstein90,Moonwiki
This in no way implies article ownership; all editors are encouraged to contribute.
  • Please add your name in the box above if you plan to actively participate in the To-dos. Let us contribute and make this an A-class, or better rated article. — Aksera 12:47, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
  • I have taken the liberty to move some very old messages to a new Archived messages section at the very end of this page. I propose that messages older than a few months, say six months, be moved to this section for avoiding clutter and ease of accessibility. I would also like to humbly suggest that if your message deserves a new section or sub-section, feel free to create it. Similarly, if your message falls in a section which already exists, please do not hesitate to add your message to that particular section instead of creating a new one. Oh and please sign your messages using wiki's inbuilt markup of four tilde, that is by putting ~~~~ after your message. — Aksera 07:12, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] To do

I plan to extensively copy-edit this article to raise the quality. I ask all you fellow editors to please contribute new content, pictures, or ideas so that Lucknow's charm can be seen in this writing as well. We can use Mumbai and Delhi as our baseline. For a particular section, the tasks should be done in the given order, please do not mix up. Feel free to add more suggestions and mark completed tasks with a strike-through. For instance, <s>Modify ''Sample'' section</s> will yield this Modify Sample section.

To-do list for Lucknow: edit · history · watch · refresh
  • Modify the Intro paragraph
  • Add Lucknow's skyline, new buildings only! A picture from Clark's Awadh or Shakti Bhawan would give a great panaromic view (i am not in Lucknow so i need your help guys — Aksera 12:53, 24 June 2007 (UTC))
  • Modify Geography
  • Add Lucknow's map
  • Add better weather information
  • Rename to Geography and Climate
  • Modify Economy and Business
  • Add developmental figures, i.e., Lucknow's ranking and the like
  • Presently gives the impression that Chikan work is the primary revenue generator when it's not
  • Create or find correct Mohan Meakin Group article
  • Create or find correct Scooters India Limited article
  • Modify Government and Politics
  • Extend this section; needs major work and a lot can be added
  • Modify Transport
  • Find pictures of the airport, railway station, city bus, auto, tempo, and Lucknow's wide roads ;)
  • Add at the most three selected pictures (via votes) to this section. More pictures will be a distraction and take away the main point of the article
  • Modify Demographics
  • As mentioned earlier, information about Lucknow's people and society needs to be added
  • Add population figures for communities as done in Mumbai
  • Modify In and around the city
  • Add pictures for the monuments, parks, and multiplexes mentioned in the article
  • Modify Localities and Municipality
  • Create or find correct Lucknow Municipal Corporation article
  • Add some description, local landmarks (only interesting stuff) to a few colonies
  • Modify Culture
  • Add regional festivals to this section and perhaps, a good picture of kites in the sky
  • Modify Education and Research
  • Enough with the lists! These need to be moved to this article. A link to the lists article, like it is right now, should be good enough
  • Add description about major schools such as CMS and the likes
  • Same goes for universities and research institutes
  • Keep the section in paragraph form
  • Modify Media
  • Add distribution figures of the dailies. For example, print languages, most circulated, etc.
  • Door Darshan, guys?
  • Modify Sports
  • Needs copy-editing
  • Add famous sports players from Lucknow

Thank you,
Aksera 12:58, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Skyline

I have captured a great image for the Lucknow skyline, hope it does better for the article! User:Einstein90

That is indeed a nice picture. However, I have moved it to the Places to visit sub-section. To be honest, Lucknow does not have a skyline. A skyline is made by skyscrapers and Lucknow doesn't have any. Moreover, in my humble opinion, we can not pass Ambedkar park as the skyline for Lucknow. I hope i have not offended you by moving the picture to a sub-section and I hope we will continue to add good content and refine this article at the same time. Muchos gracias for participating in the discussion! — Aksera 22:33, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry, I don't really think Lucknow has a skyline either. User:Einstein90

Hi Guys ! I share your passion for Lucknow. Talking of skylines, do I think Lucknow has a skyline of sorts. Both in the traditional old Lucknow as well as the broad avenued Gomtinagar with its malls and high rises.

We need better and brighter pictures of Lucknow that capture its essence. Some ideas : - Roomi gate which makes a good mascot for the city.( for the introductory section ) - Pictures from Lucknow Zoo ( for laces to visit ) - Qaisebagh complex (for the Culture Section ) - Vidhan Sabha building ( for Setion on Govt & Politics ) -Old and dated pictures like that of La Martiniere should be removed and replaced with newer ones

User:Moonwiki

You mention good points, buddy. However, i have a different opinion about the La Martiniere picture you removed from the History section. That picture has historical importance and its caption clearly said "Sir Claude Martin's palace..." so you might want to reconsider your stand. — Aksera 16:17, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Education & Institutes

The lists were a mess. I have made a major structural change by consolidating fragmented sentences and paragraphs. Please discuss here if you decide to modify the structure. I propose to move the institution lists to the appropriate category (List of educational institutes in Lucknow) and just put a link to the category in this section. Of course, we will be able to elaborate more on prime institutes like Lucknow University or IIM then. What say, guys? — Aksera 00:26, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Great job there. Since it got infected with more schools, move some more to that page. removed some nonsense spam. Neatified some sentences and wiki linked some words. thevikas (talk) 00:16, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that imrovement ! I think it would be a good idea to showcase Lucknow as an Educational and Research hub.

In my opinion , the pictures of schools should be avoided or atleast replaced with better pictures.--moon 12:02, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Pictures, if relevant, always add to the content. This is specially true for an open encyclopedia like this place. But yes, we can always do with better pictures. — Aksera 16:17, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Message for editor w/ IP 122.161.x.x

I see that you have been actively editing this article. Please register so that other users can communicate with you in a better way. As for your edits on Lucknow, I would like to go over them one-by-one:

  1. Let the school pictures stay, they don't violate Wikipedia rules but rather add to the content positively.
  2. The noun ambience is an out-dated usage of ambiance so let that stay as well.
  3. Not sure about this so I am leaving your edit. Are there different campuses of LU—Main campus and perhaps more with other names?
  4. Nice additions!
  5. Thank you for adding UPTU to the list, it totally slipped off my mind!

I don't know if i am going to be able to keep up this kind of discussions for long. But I have just started on Wikipedia so this passion should last for at least a few weeks :P. Thank you for reading this! — Aksera 12:04, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks to your prompting I am now registered. I share your passion for Lucknow. Let us make it an A class article. Lucknow deserves it. Regards--moon 12:09, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

You are very welcome! — Aksera 16:17, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edit to this article or new article?

Lucknow medival finding belong to pasi kingdoms,even befor Nawab era,who were defeated by muslims(nawab) invaders. Lucknow had two famous king who have given defeat to muslim (nawab) invaders. Lakhnaa paasi(on which Lucknow is also said to get name),Bijli Paasi.Lakhnaa Paasi was beheaded by muslim invaders. His head was thrown into an historical drain of Lucknow Sar-kataa Nalaa (means Human beheaded Drain). The history realted to PAASI kingdom is found in various websites related to Lucknow. - Asheesh Mishra, Lucknow.

Lucknow, a village in the township of Huron-Kinloss in Huron County, Ontario, Canada (Population 1100) was named after the town in India where, in 1857, a vicious battle took place between the besieging native rebels and the British army. Horrendous tales of the Indian Mutiny, as it was called, reached even the Canadian wilderness. "Sepoy" on the town's welcome sign is a reference to the Indian foot soldiers who fought on the British side in the Relief of Lucknow. The "Drive Canny" addendum on the sign is demonstrative of the Scottish ancestry of it's founding people.

This is awesome info - could not have got this at any other place than wikipedia. To your question: Start new article.doles 14:38, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Lists

Some sections of the webpage are really long, should the be moved to some separate page or a list, for example List of educational institutes in Lucknow and List of companies in Lucknow on the lines of other metro city pages in India 152.66.37.76 14:42, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree too, the article is getting crowded and we could move some information to Lists. IrfanAli 14:44, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copy-editing

I have copy-edited this article substantially, and I plan to remove the copy-edit notice as well. I have tried not to change any of the content, since I am not from Lucknow, and am not aware of much about Lucknow either. --ashwatha 09:46, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Demography or Langauge?

I can't undersatnd why the Demographics section of this article has been named so, because the section discusses about language of Lucknow people. Isn't the demography section supposed to talk about the people of Lucknow, instead of only their language? User:Kazimostak

I agree. When I was reading over the same section, I thought it should be revised too. It only deals with the history of language, and thus should be moved to the history section. Parihav 12:56, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I agree that the stuff should be moved to a new section called "Culture & Language".--moon 12:05, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

I concur. Moon, please don't forget to check out the Manual_of_Style. I have been constantly noticing you struggle with styles decisions. Trust me, the document may seem huge but if you survive to go through it, you will master the styles of English language and learn Wikipedia markup at the same time! Godspeed, — Aksera 16:17, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Archived messages

Article's a minor mess. Seems to be more like a tourist brochure than an encyclopedia article. [[User:AmarChandra|Amar | Talk]] 06:15, Jul 8, 2004 (UTC)

It's been more than three years since the above comment was posted, and the article still reads like a tourist brochure. Statements like "Courtly manners, beautiful gardens, poetry, music, and fine cuisine patronized by the Nawabs are well known among Indians and students of South Asian culture and history" are desperately in need of citations and/or revisions. Lucknow may very well be a lovely city, but the entire entry is so loaded with POV that it's almost completely useless. 75.219.231.16 18:12, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

This is hardly started. I will try an extensive writeup in a couple of days. Surely Lucknow deserves better! -- Mohan Ravichandran

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Ganj.jpg

Image:Ganj.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot 05:05, 1 July 2007 (UTC)