Talk:Louis the German

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[edit] Is Louis the German also Louis II?

Accuracy check needed:

Was Louis the German also called Louis II?

Article Louis the Pious indicates he was, as does Wikipedia:List of encyclopedia topics/Biographies L2.

However, article Louis the German indicates his nephew was also named Louis II:

"In 855 the emperor Lothar died, and Louis and Charles for a time seem to have cooperated in plans to divide Lothar's possessions among themselves -- the only impediments to this being Lothar's sons, Lothar II and Louis II."


Louis the German is also not listed at the disambiguation page, Louis II.

Is this information accurate -- that Louis the German and his nephew, (Louis II, Holy Roman Emperor) -- both had the same name, Louis II?

I didn't want to run the links before finding out for sure from someone with expertise in this area.

Thanks, Kevyn 01:19, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

  • In short, yes. At length: they didn't have the same name, but yes, they now are both referred to as "the second" by some people in some contexts. It's a good reason to not rely on numbering to tell people apart. So:
  • Louis the Pious's son = Louis the German = Ludwig II, King of the East Franks
  • Louis the Pious's nephew, son of his brother Lothar = Louis II, Emperor = Ludwig II, King of Italy
- Nunh-huh 01:41, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Beautiful! I've fixed the links. Thanks for the accuracy check. Kevyn 07:16, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)
A pleasure. The family really should have had a bit more imagination, with three Louis/Ludwigs, 2 Charles' and two Lothar/Lothairs in such close juxtaposition.... - Nunh-huh 07:43, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

(sorry for my english) luis II was died in Leno abbey near Brescia in the north of italy on in frankfurt!

That's the Emperor Louis II, this is Louis the German. Srnec 03:56, 6 September 2007 (UTC)