Talk:Lone wolf (terrorism)
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Hello! Anyone want to list terrorist acts by people other than Israelis? For the last five years, I can give you ten Palestinian suicide bombings for every one Israeli incident listed on this page. This page is a gross violation of WP's policy of neutral point of view. 129.98.212.47 04:49, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
- Ah, but the Palestinian suicide bombers are not leaderless and have a definite political goal, making it incorrect to call their acts lone-wolf terrorism. -Toptomcat 18:20, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
The imformation in here is factually incorrect. The Real IRA is a splinter group of the Provisional IRA, and not connected with the Provisionals. The two are separate groups, and the Real IRA is not a cover name for the Provisionals. A much better example would be the Red Hand Defenders (loyalist cover name) or the IRA's anti-dealer group, whose name escapes me at the minute... Will edit it to a higher standard as of tomorrow. - Supersheep
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[edit] Personal essay
This article looks like a personal essay. Can anyone provide a citation that the term "independent terrorist actor" is used? A Google check seems to reveal mostly WP mirror sites. The term "lone wolf" is used more often.
Secondly, the section about Vietnam and the IRA was either false or incomprehensible. I've made it invisible; pasting it below in case others think there is some merit in it. SlimVirgin (talk) 18:38, Apr 21, 2005 (UTC)
This was true in the case of Vietnam, where the US government undertook a large terrorist operation to exacerbate the pre-existing civil conflict in Vietnam, unbeknownst to the larger American public (the cause which the public was led to support was "anti-communism"). Also the Omagh bombing in Ireland, where the "Real IRA"—a splinter group from the more conciliatory IRA, killed 29 people in a bombing attack against Ulster Loyalist families—a completely radical action, according to the mainstream Republican view.
In the Palestinian territories, a similar (but more complex) situation exists where in addition to the large organizations there are several distinct factions (mostly based on clans and blood ties), under constant pressure by retaliatory actions from Israel, tend to be extremely divided about any immediate course of action—such that they can rarely or never act in a collective or controlled manner. Under stress, the choice between action and inaction tends to default to one between violence and protest. Violence, being far more decisive than moderation and discussion, tends to win out over discussion.
The other problem with this article is that it doesn't make it clear that the connection between the individuals and the groups are alleged; that is, that it is alleged that these individuals purposely break connection with the group so that the group can then claim they had no knowledge. A less conspiracy oriented view is that these people truly do act on their own, without the guidance or approval of anyone.
I've added all the people cited for now, but the problems with this article remain. Who has designated these individuals as "Independent terrorist actors", and who has documented their arming and training by various groups, then purposeful break of connectsions? The original research in this article needs to be fixed with careful citation. Jayjg (talk) 20:57, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I think this whole article needs sources. Who uses the term "lone wolf terrorism"? Do mentally ill people qualify? Do people kind-of-linked-but-not-really to formal organisations count? I'm not saying I'm sceptical of the concept: it looks very plausible. But in principle, plausible fiction is more insidious than obvious nonsense. jnestorius(talk) 14:25, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] John Allen Muhammad, a terrorist?
While I know, and also partly understand different reasons for not agreeing on a definition on terrorism, I find it strange that John Allen Muhammad can be classified as one in this article. If one doesn't include a political goal or something along those lines, many criminals can be defined as terrorist, and thus only help to obscure an already difficult and complex concept. -- 09:00, 22. Sept 2005
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- No, he wasn't a "terrorist" in the way Americans think of the work (as bug-eyed foreigners wearing winter coats on a 90-degree day), but he did go out and shoot people in the vicinity of the nation's capital, and no one's going to argue that he didn't spread "terror" throughout the area. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.165.87.40 (talk • contribs) 02:29, January 31, 2006 (UTC)
It's poor, but it's a notable subject. There is plenty of info on cell terrorism out there, but not much on this. I vote to keep, and let it be expanded. [User:stargate70]
He's definitely a terrorist; he did what he did in order to incite terror, which is more or less the definition of terrorism. Like McVeigh though, he wasn't a lone wolf; he had an accomplice (though, in the case of McVeigh, there's some amount of evidence the greater white supremacist movement might be related). Titanium Dragon 23:47, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] New Lead
Looking at the history of this article I can understand why this information was missing, but IMHO it was a gross oversight. "Lone-wolf" in this context came out of the US white supremacist movement, and the original "lone-wolves" actually were self-identified as such. As far as I can tell, law enforcement and media use of "lone wolf" to refer generically to single-actor terrorists followed this usage.--Saswann 03:26, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Autobiographic Detail
The present writer, with the benefit of having lived many years beyond Col. Amoss, has taken his theories and expounded upon them. Col. Amoss feared the Communists. This author fears the federal government. Communism now represents a threat to no one in the United States, while federal tyranny represents a threat to everyone . The writer has joyfully lived long enough to see the dying breaths of communism, but may, unhappily, remain long enough to see the last grasps of freedom in America.
This probably speaks for itself. I kind of want to put lots of "citation needed" tags in there. Seriously though, what should be done to this passage. I also suspect that leaderless resistance has been around for a lot longer, if not studied or called such. If anybody has information on that, I think that could go in here.
Iain marcuson (talk) 07:12, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
