Talk:Londo Mollari
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Spoiler indeed. Do we actually need to reveal this much? Gzuckier 16:20, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Best policy is probably to move all of the spoilery stuff to the bottom, with a spoiler warning above it. grendel|khan 16:56, 2004 Sep 18 (UTC)
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[edit] Disputing early characterization
From his simply drawn, somewhat buffoonish early character, most notable for ineffectual temper tantrums over perceived slights, and his hatred of the lizard-like Narn Regime (once slaves to the Centauris, but now having achieved independence through revolt) and their Ambassador G'Kar, Mollari sought to regain the former glory of the Centauri Republic. Mollari's character becomes more detailed and rounded as the series progresses, and he is shown to be both likable, and capable of acts of kindness and generosity, even forming something of a grudging friendship with G'Kar.
- I dispute the characterization that Londo is not sympathetic from the beginning. Having just watched the pilot and the first disc of the first season on Netflix, I think Londo is pretty clearly a likable character right from the start. In the pilot, he is a bit buffoonish, but there's already a considerable degree of pathos there (as when he explains to Garibaldi why he voted to expel Sinclair). In the early episodes of the season, Londo is clearly a sympathetic figure in both of the episodes in which he features - we are certainly meant to sympathize with him in both the episode where the Narns attack the outlying Centauri colony where Londo's nephew is chief researcher, and in the episode where he is bamboozled by a beautiful woman and has to get his secrets back. The early episodes are very clearly playing up the Narn as the principal bad guys, and the Centauri, and particularly Londo, generally come off sympathetic in comparison. john k 20:11, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] The late Mollari: What episodes?
Which episodes contain all the information in the section "Emperor Mollari II" after Mollari received his keeper? In particular, the David Sheridan kidnapping and Mollari and G'Kar killing each other?
- That Londo and G'Kar kill each other is foreshadowed throughout the show, and then actually shown in "War without End, Part 2". But many of the other details are not found in that episode. Perhaps some of it comes from novels? I've not seen pretty much any of the last season, so I don't know what may occur in that. john k 03:49, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
- Looking at synopses, the stuff about a keeper for David Sheridan comes from "Objects at Rest," the second to last episode. I think some of the other stuff may have been spoken of indirectly by either Delenn or Londo in "War without End, Part 2" - but not directly. Probably much of this relies on novels. john k 04:00, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
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- "Mollari and G'Kar finally died at each other's hands" is only what Mollari thinks he forseen. G'Kar is quite alive for Sheridan farewell party (last episode).
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- Not at all. G'Kar is already dead at that moment. He is one of the 'absent friends' reminded at the table.
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[edit] Centauri hairstyle
The well known Centauri hairstyle was originally created by Peter Jurasik as a gag in the preproduction costume fittings. His joke was misunderstood by series creator J. Michael Straczynski, who assumed that Jurasik liked the concept and did not want to disappoint him, while Jurasik did not want to insult JMS who he assumed really liked the hair. - I recon this comes from the JMS commentary on the dvds? I think he mentioned only that on the first day of shooting Peter Jurasik came out of the trailer with a particularly bad done Centauri hair crest, and that his hairdo was much better from season 2 on. No where is it mentioned that Peter Jurasik somehow created the Centauri hairstyle. Only that the directer and actor where too fond of each other to tell that a) Peter didn't like the badly done hair, and b) JMS didn't like it too, therefore it was that way during the first season. JMS mentions that Lord Refa also had a badly done crest.Aetherfukz 09:41, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
- Due to the lack of responses I have now deleted the trivia entry, because The well known Centauri hairstyle was originally created by Peter Jurasik as a gag in the preproduction costume fittings. is just false. Londo's hairstyle did indeed look particulary bad in season 1, but this was fixed in season 2 onward, where his hair look much more "regal" and not so fuzzy and uncomed like it did before. This was mentioned by JMS on the DVD commentary - that Jurasik came out of his trailer on the first day of shooting season 1 with particulary bad hairstyle, and JMS thought Jurasik liked it, and Jurasik thought JMS liked it so they didn't change it. Never, ever was it mentioned that Jurasik was somehow the inventor of the Centauri hairstyle. Aetherfukz 23:22, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Notable Omissions
Why does the article not mention his relationship with Lady Adira, his 4 wives, or his complex history with Lord Refa? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.206.160.105 (talk • contribs) (29 January 2007)
- I feel it should -- feel free to do so yourself, I don't remember much of the details so cannot do it myself. — Xiutwel (talk) 15:05, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] references
Anyone know an episode number for this?
- At the end of the fifth season, it was revealed that the Drakh have manipulated the Interstellar Alliance into attacking the Centauri Homeworld. The Drakh decided they needed Londo to be Emperor. The Regent died when his keeper was removed, and another keeper was attached to Londo. For the next 15 years, Londo reigned as Emperor. Londo soon learned that alcohol would put the Keeper to sleep, and would allow him a few minutes of freedom.
— Xiutwel (talk) 08:31, 14 June 2007 (UTC) Or, some parallel events so that I can narrow it down a bit? 80.61.243.71 10:45, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
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