Talk:Lobengula
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This article needs to be rewritten. The only thing it says about Lobengula, is that he was the king of the matabeles. It says lot more about the matabeles and Mzilikazi, however... Shauni 20:43, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- Agreed. I've added a lot of background based on historical sources now in the public domain. User:Ctatkinson 03:43, 4 Sept 2006 (UTC)
I am appalled by the fact that little has been mentioned about Lobengulas elegibility to rule effectively without any compromies. The article does not say anything about the christian relationship that Lobengula had and the one built by his father The Lion UMzlikazi{rather background}. This article should also have stated on Lobengulas gullible nature attributed by the Moffart treaty and other treaties signed before the Rudd Concession. Thus, WHY did he trust the whites, and because of this diplomatic stance,WHY was he left with fewer choices!!! and WHAT were those choices! I applaud the article for putting emphasis on Lobengulas ill health though it backdates.
- The article does state:
I think more should be said about how Rhodes/Jameson used the fight between Ndebele and Shona as a pretense to initiating a war between Ndebele and the British South Africa Company -- First Matabele War. I'll add some more on this and welcome other ideas... --Ctatkinson 11:30, 14 November 2006 (UTC)"It soon became obvious that Lobengula had been duped and that the British team really intended to colonise his territory."
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Where does the nonsense about the Ndebele killing a million people come from? Much of the article, as well as the above comments, is rubbish--filled with factual errors and wild misinformation. The article should be removed. How did it even pass Wikipedia's literacy standards? In addition to many misspelled African names, it contains many misspelled English words.
I have made some corrections to dates (amongst others the Rudd Concession was 1888 not 1889) and the article now has a good deal of information about Lobengula rather than Mzilikazi. But it says nothing about the rather inportant facts of his means of rule, especially since his treatment of subject peoples was so harsh, and his organisation of his kingdom. I would be prepared to add a section if necessary. --AssegaiAli 14:35, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the good edits and please do add sections on his kingdom and rule. There is much that still needs to be said. The article is in start class and it would be good to bring it a least to a 'B' class and further. If you have the background and inclination, I would be glad to assist. -- Ctatkinson 14:53, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
