Talk:Live Search Maps

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Contents 1 Japanese coverage 2 History section 3 Still a Stub? 4 Requested move 4.1 Survey 4.1.1 Survey - in support of the move 4.1.2 Survey - in opposition to the move 4.2 Discussion 5 Advertisement? 6 Monopolistic 7 Criticism: IIS logs 8 Fair use rationale for Image:Windows-live-local.PNG 9 Compatibility 10 Dead Links 11 Redirection to Multimap in the UK 12 URL?

[edit] Japanese coverage

Just a note: the coverage of street data for Japan is not "highly-detailed"...actually, it's pretty terrible. Kcumming 20:40, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. I just did a more thorough analysis of the Tokyo data and you're right; it has good highway-level data (as it does for many other countries) but lacks street or alley-level data. Windows Live Local does have detailed street-level data for practically all of Taiwan, though. --Coolcaesar 20:57, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Just checked now and it appears to have reasonably detailed alley-level information one would expect from an ordinary map. It also shows silhouettes of subway stations. —Tokek 12:08, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Also Directions is showing something strange over whole Japan, so you can say there is no Directions in Japan until your car cant fly over rivers, building and railways to fallow. —Rambalac (talk) 07:42, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] History section

I'm moving this here:

On December 11, 2006, Microsoft added the ability to view the maps in 3D using an ActiveX control and DirectX.

I think the date is incorrect. Could someone who knows fix this and put this back into the article? Thanks ~ Feureau 11:10, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

The date has been updated. Funny how you posted this (8 November 2006) before the date stated above (December 11, 2006). Pikablu0530 23:19, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Still a Stub?

I am of the opinion that there is enough information on this page, such that there is no need to call it a stub anymore. Anyone has any comments regarding this? -- 0612 (talk) 04:20, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Agree - stub tag should be removed now. Wikiolap 06:05, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

In my opinion there is still not enough history information? Eg. relation of Virtual Earth to Windows Live Local, features of first program versions in comparition to now...

[edit] Requested move

[edit] Advertisement?

Some portions of the article are written like an advertisement. Dy yol 23:00, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Monopolistic

This section reads as incredibly biased against Microsoft and needs amending. SaintedLegion 15:50, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I removed it entirely. Microsoft does not foist Live Maps on anyone using monopolistic tactics, nor have they done anything anti-competitive against Google. Just competing with Google is not an inherently monopolistic act, and the cited source did not indicate as such. White 720 23:13, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Criticism: IIS logs

I removed the rest of the criticism section. The remainder seemed to say, "browsing maps on Live Local is not anonymous" because Microsoft captures IP addresses and requests of visitors. Every web server does this and every reputable site includes a privacy policy stating so. Here's Microsoft's. I don't work for Microsoft nor am I paid to remove this crap from Wikipedia on their behalf. Let's be reasonable. White 720 17:15, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Windows-live-local.PNG

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BetacommandBot 05:07, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Compatibility

The site seems a bit more reasonable compatibility-wise now. Could people using the following browsers check whether following links (e.g. [1]) works?

• Camino
• Konqueror
• Safari
• Opera
• IceWeasel
• Seamonkey

EdC 16:08, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Wouldn't we need to have verifiable sources (e.g. not original research) to ascertain compatibility? It'd be nice if Microsoft posted their actual compatibility on the web site, but in the meantime any original research can't stay in. White 720 23:28, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Found some references by digging around. EdC 00:19, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Looks much better now. White 720 04:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dead Links

All http://local.live.com/ links (References 1-8) appear to be dead. A great pity, as a lot of the satellite images were better than Google (in the UK anyway) and it was so easy to use. I can't work out how to get satellite images with http://intl.local.live.com. Any ideas? MansLaughter (talk) 19:44, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

The official link to Live Search Maps is http://maps.live.com . http://intl.local.live.com is for the prerelease version of Live Search Local - a service that allow users to quickly find information about businesses around their local area, then links you to a map on Live Search Maps. However, the new link for Live Search Local is http://search.live.com/localsearch . See Live Search article for more information. --Pikablu0530 (talk) 22:34, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

http://search.live.com/localsearch produces an error and http://maps.live.com simply re-directs to http://intl.local.live.com, which is hopeless. A rhetorical question: what the hell is Microsoft playing at? Oh well, looks like Google Maps for me. MansLaughter (talk) 13:44, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Links are OK. Probably your browser isn't supported - that's why your'e being redirected. IE and Firefox works fine, Opera too (after masking as IE or Fx). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.24.246.158 (talk) 21:50, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it depends on your user agent in order to let you in. Jason McHuff (talk) 06:09, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Redirection to Multimap in the UK

Since today anyone logging in from the UK is directed to multimap.com and has no option to keep on using the Live Maps. I have added a short mention of this as many UK users seem to be puzzled why they no longer can use Live Search. Bigar (talk) 10:02, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Multimap is owned by Microsoft and says "from Live Search" in the masthead. Must be some kind of rebranding effort. White 720 (talk) 16:39, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I've updated that section now that the minor debacle has passed. Tophtucker (talk) 23:07, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] URL?

Up until a moment ago, the infobox listed three URLs: http://maps.live.com, http://local.live.com, and http://virtualearth.com. I just removed the local.live.com one, since Microsoft is no longer using the Windows Live Local branding. But because Virtual Earth remains a big part of the brand, I left that. Just something to think about. Tophtucker (talk) 02:19, 17 April 2008 (UTC)