Talk:Little Egypt (region)

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[edit] Boundaries

It seems that the article in general equates all of Southern Illinois with Little Egypt. In my experience (I'm from Mt. Vernon), the Metro-East is not included at all in "Little Egypt," and the northern boundary is further south than Effingham (e.g. the news coverage of the Southern Illinoisan, which IIRC has advertised itself as a regional newspaper for Little Egypt, pretty much fades out north of Benton). If there is historical precedent, I don't have a problem with it staying as it is, but should there perhaps be two different pages for Southern Illinois and Little Egypt? Or, at the least, should Southern Illinois be the principal name of the page, since it is the more general name for the region? Just some thoughts. MikeND05 01:55, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Article Name?...

67.176.74.236 05:13, 10 November 2005 (UTC)Richard Jensen. As the author of the state history, "Illinois: A History" (U of Illinois Press, 2002), I have done extensive research on Egypt. It was and is called "Egypt" but outsiders sometimes mix it up with the belly dancer at the 1933 Chicago World's Fair named "Little Egypt" (whose name refers to Egyptian belly dancers, not to this region. And it was the Fair of 1933, not that of 1893 when she appeared.) So let's just drop all the "Little" references. This misinformation should be exposed by an ency, not repeated. RJ

You are absolutely wrong. Little Egypt is the prefered term. I know. I grew up there. 128.114.60.186 10:14, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

The article says "The region is sometimes mistakenly called "Little Egypt" ." But it seems this "mistake" was also made by whoever titled this page....Shouldn't this be moved to Egypt (Illinois region) or something like that?... Blackcats 05:47, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

  • That's a good idea--can you do it? Rjensen 05:57, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
No need to move. Egypt is an older form of the name but Little Egypt is widely used now. Rmhermen 01:32, 29 December 2005 (UTC)


No one calls Southern Illinois "Little Egypt." I lived there for twenty years and have never heard that term until I wikipediad "Southern Illinois." THis is a subjective term obviously used only by people from the very sparsley populated Cairo area. If I had more time on my hands I'd correct this error, but hopefully someone else can do it. Kpoz 20:24, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Not true. For instance, I live in Waterloo, Illinois, south of St. Louis, and there was a senior center and thrift shop called "Western Egyptian" part of the Egyptian Health Organization. Also, "Egyptian Stationers" in Carbondale, Illinois. So its not just a term used around Kay-ro. PreciousRoi (talk) 22:58, 28 January 2008 (UTC)


Well done, everyone knows it's Kay-ro. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.99.14.111 (talk) 08:02, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How About this regions support of the Confederacy?

The region had alot in common with south for one part its racial characteristics and some of the locals have southern accents, and according to past history representatives voted in support of many bills which were largley supported by southerners.

To a large extent, this is part of the re-imagining of the "romantic South". It is covered in the culture section. Rmhermen 04:52, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Many men from Southern Illinois volunteered for the Confederate Army. Some say Memorial Day started when Union Gen. John A. Logan invited the Confederate veterans to march with the Union vets from Murphysboro to C'dale.

Gen. John Alexander McClernand was a Southern Illinois Congressman before the war. He had pro-Southern, pro-Union views that probably reflected the popular viewpoint in Southern Illinois. He was Grant's main rival for command of Union forces in the West. McClernand's attitude was more of "let's settle this before somebody gets hurt", in contrast to Grant's abolitionist tendencies.

At the time of the Civil War, the "Southern accent" had not yet come into existence.M dorothy

""Southern accent" had not yet come into existence.". This is not entirely true. Speech has changed since the War but regional speech differences existed long before the War. Rmhermen 05:48, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moving Forward

I think we have a pretty good article here but it would be nice to have a couple more pictures and maybe a more concentrated 'History' section. GA status would logically be the goal, but issues with the GA process lead me to think that I'd rather not bother to get GA for this article. Anyone else have any opinions? Robovski 23:06, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Source for this info?

"Southern Illinois has consistently voted for conservative Republican candidates since 1920."

I don't buy it. Prove me wrong.


[edit] golden circle

The golden circle does not divide southern illinois from the rest of the state. The circle's arc goes way north according to the map on Golden Circle (slavery) 128.114.60.186 10:47, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Not that far north. Rmhermen 20:41, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Capitalize "Southern Illinois"

Following the Wikipedia:Manual of Style (capital letters)#Directions and regions And given that this article assumes that Southern Illinois is a distinct region. Shouldn't it be capitalized? Or at least shouldn't the use of capitalization for the region be consistent throughout? 70.225.36.194 (talk) 18:31, 17 February 2008 (UTC)