Talk:List of tomato cultivars

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[edit] Can we work on this?

While the list's survival of the AfD process indicates that it's a worthwhile list to have around, in its current form it's complete garbage. Any thoughts on reorganizing? Indeterminate vs. determinate strikes me as being rather more paraphyletic than necessary, seeing as how shape and size of fruit and determinacy of vine don't really coincide. Maybe start with the basic categories a seed catalog might use, such as Slicing, Beefsteak, Paste, Cherry, etc? Haikupoet 05:50, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree, the organization is poor. Also agree that categorization by type is a better way to go (vs. by color, which is ridiculous IMHO). Perhaps order it in general order of size, starting with cherry tomatoes at the top, then beefsteak at the bottom? MsWhatsit 21:51, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Clearly you have very little experience with tomatoes...they are usually organized by color. It would be absolutely silly to organize them by size. That'd be like organizing your cans of food alphabetically, or by label color; it has nothing to do with what people would actually use them for. Go to any large website listing or selling scores of cultivars of tomatoes, and they'll always be by color. --Kaz 23:48, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Hmm. Well, I just visited the websites of nearly a dozen gardening and seed supply companies, and all of them either organize their tomato varieties in straight alphabetical order, or organize them by general class (i.e., beefsteak, cherry, paste, midsize, etc.). Examples: http://www.burpee.com/category/vegetables/tomatoes.do, http://www.oscseeds.com/list-2category.asp?secondid=SC0050, http://www.naturalhub.com/grow_vegetable_cultivars_tomato.htm. I couldn't find tomatoes organized primarily by color anywhere. Now, I agree that classification by color is useful, but not as the top-level division. Maybe that wasn't clear in my earlier comment -- I think it would make the most sense to have them classified first as "beefsteak" (or whatever) and then "red/pink/yellow/etc." within that class. Would be interested in examples of tomatoes classified by color as a top-level classification, however, as I am willing to believe they are out there and I just couldn't find them. MsWhatsit 15:37, 8 August 2007 (UTC)