Talk:List of space travelers by name

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Contents 1 Left the Earth's orbit? 2 1000 human earth-escapes mile-mark? 3 Flags 4 Surname of Sheikh Muszaphar Shukor? 5 Nationality of space travelers 6 Fixes

[edit] Left the Earth's orbit?

"24 people have completely left the Earth's orbit"

I have a problem with this sentence. Isn't the Moon in Earth's orbit and aren’t you still in Earth's orbit on the way to the Moon? Also, don't Astronauts leave orbit when they land back on Earth?

I think it should be changed to: "24 people have traveled out of low Earth orbit" --Philip Stevens 09:55, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

I quite agree Adambisset 08:23, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 1000 human earth-escapes mile-mark?

I read someplace that the number of times that a human has left the earth reached 1000 within the last 6 months or so, but I have not been able to find the article again. I spent some time Googling, but was unable to find anything related to it; has anyone heard about this? Leon7 19:18, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Today, 450 humans have been higher than 100 km, and 456 have been higher than 50 miles. If you count space travelers for every space flight they have done, you might end up with 1,000. Go ahead counting ;-) --Necessary Evil 23:45, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flags

Hi! I noticed that on this page there is no clear definition, what the flags next to the persons' names mean. The nationality, of course. And a former one (Merbold, but not Bella)? Or only the flag for the country of birth (Wang, but not Trinh)? I think we should have a consistent presentation of the flags, and therefore a clear definition is required. I opened a discussion on Talk:List of astronauts by name#Flags and hope we can get a consensus. In most cases, the flags are clear, but there are some exceptions, when people change countries, or when whole countries change. Meet you over there. --Asdert 19:04, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

On Talk:List of astronauts by name#Flags it was agreed that the flags should indicate the person's citizenship (not nationality) at the time of the flight(s). So some cosmonauts that flew as Soviet and as Russian citizens will get two flags. --Asdert 22:58, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Surname of Sheikh Muszaphar Shukor?

Someone has placed the Malaysian in the M section. I'm not familiar with Malaysian names, but to have Sheikh Muszaphar Shukor in both the S and M sections is unacceptable. Does anyone know the correct answer? Necessary Evil 19:49, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

According to this, he has no surname, as the MOS classifies it. They are referring to him as "Sheikh Muszaphar", so I would think it should be listed under "S". Ariel♥Gold 20:13, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nationality of space travelers

If we take into account cosmonauts’ place of birth or ethnic descent, a lot of details will encumber the list and entangle a question. It is rather difficult and even delicate to determine genuine nationality of a person (I don’t mean citizenship). For example, Sharipov was born in Kyrgyzstan, his nation is Uzbek, but he is citizen of Russian Federation. Manarov was born in Azerbaijan, but he belongs to small ethnic group of the Laks (territory of Daghestan, RF). Yurchikhin was born in Autonomous Republic of Adzharia in Georgia, but has Greek descent (Greece even consider him as informal first Greek cosmonaut). So, which flag we should place in the list of space travelers? Russian, Adzharian, Georgian or Greek? Eighteen Soviet/Russian cosmonauts were born in Ukraine, so what? Why Artsebarsky is marked with Ukrainian flag and other 17 – are not?

By the way, there is written here, that Anders is the first Asian-born astronaut. I am sorry, but Altai Krai where Gherman Titov was born is situated in Asia!

Another question is Kazakh cosmonauts. The government of Kazakhstan officially regards them as their cosmonauts № 1 and № 2 exclusively because of their ethnic origin forgetting that Shatalov, Patsayev, Viktorenko, Lonchakov were the natives of Kazakhstan too. Furthermore, Aubakirov and Musabayev were Soviet (later Russian) Air Force officers and could not be foreigners by definition. Aubakirov carried out his spaceflight two months before December, 1991, when Kazakhstan got independence. As for Musabayev, he has got Kazakhstan sitizenship only this year (2007), when was retired from Russian Forces. It is obviously that Aubakirov and Musabayev should be considered as Soviet and Russian cosmonauts (or even primarily).

I believe that the nation of any astronaut in space statistics is determined by his sitizenship at the moment of the spaceflight but not his birthplace, former or current residence and ethnic origin. In my opinion, the country that sent cosmonaut to space is more essential criterion than present-day address which can change scores of time. Eugene SPB 22:33, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fixes

Somehow the numbers were in error -- as the running numeration now clearly shows, the list contains 477 individuals, 3 of whom (Walker, Melvill, Binnie) did not reach orbit. If the enumeration is maintained, it should be easier to double-check the numbers in future. RandomCritic (talk) 02:33, 10 April 2008 (UTC)