Talk:List of rail gauges
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[edit] Lithuanian railways
In the list about different gauges it's stated that Lithuania and Russia have the same. The situation is clearly more complex for Lithuania as can be seen on this page: http://www.litrail.lt/wwwEN.nsf --Smallchanges 20:25, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Gauges Names/Defined.
I think that the gauges that have a name should have that name added to the list
I also think that it should be mentioned in what messaurement system the gauge was defined (and how) (and why "misstakes").
I also think that gauges that only differ since they changed the nominal messaurement to reflect closer tolerances shold be trown together.
Seniorsag 13:43, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Estrada de Ferro Oeste de Minas in Minas Gerais
From 760 mm to 762 mm. please see: User talk:Peter Horn#EFOM gauge
(Copy and paste)Hi Peter
Do you have any evidence the gauge is 760mm? The only source I have says 2'6". I'd be surprised if it was built to 760mm, as most lines of this "gauge family" outside Europe that were not 2'6" were built to 750mm, following German practice. 760mm was an Austrian aberration, and the Austrians (or Serbs for that matter) did not have a lot of influence in these matters outside Europe. Cheers --Michael Johnson 14:00, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- I've reverted. Waters is quite firm on the question of gauge. As he is a noted rail historian, has visited the railway numerous times, and has researched original Brazilian documentation on the line, I think it unlikely he would make such a fundamental mistake. Besides, this line predates the Austrian 760mm lines. I will check up a couple of mags with locomotive drawings in them, though. Cheers --Michael Johnson 14:28, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
and User talk:Michael Johnson#Estrada de Ferro Oeste de Minas
Hello Michael,
I wondered about that myself. My error came from List of Rail Gauges#narrow gauge railways, by gauge and country which I assumed to be correct. The trick is now to track down the original source of that error. Railroad Gauge Width does not mention the EFOM. My 1969/1970 edition of JANE'S only mentions a Viaçao Ferrea Centro-Oeste (VFCO) (Comprising former EFBM, EFG, and RMV) as having both 1,000 mm (3 ft 3⅜ in) and 2 ft 6 in (762 mm) gauges. So I'll take your word for it and proceed to correct the list of rail gauges.
Ciao, Peter Horn 15:26, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- Correction, correction: Railroad Gauge Width does mention 2 ft 6 in (762 mm) under Brazil. Peter Horn 15:38, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Copy and paste. Peter Horn 16:06, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Standard Gauge (Rail gauge#Britain)
Hi Peter,
It is beginning to look like the statements that 4 ft 8½ in (1,435 mm) was a de facto standard prior to the Liverpool and Manchester Railway are unsupported statements. Baxter (1966: P 56) states that there was no standard gauge for horse railways, but there were rough groupings. In the north of England none were less than 4ft. Wylam, built before 1763, was 5ft 0in; as was John Blenkinsop's Middleton Railway - the wikipedia article says 4ft 1in, and Baxter (1966: P 56) says the old 4ft plateway was relaid to 5ft so that Blenkinsop's engine could be used.
Baxter (1966: P 56): Others were 4ft 4in Beamish or 4ft 7.5in (Bigges Main and Kenton and Coxlodge). Stephenson favoured 4ft 8in for waggonways in Northumberland and Durham and used it on his Killingworth line. The Hetton and Springwell waggonways also used the gauge. Stephenson's Stockton and Darlington railway was built to 4ft 8in and used it for fifteen years before being changed to 4 ft 8½ in (1,435 mm).
Whishaw (1842): The Chester and Birkenhead railway, authorised on 12 July 1837, was 4ft 9in (page 54); The Eastern Counties Railway, authorised on 4 July 1836, was 5ft 0in (page 91); London and Blackwall Railway, authorised on 28 July 1836, was 5ft 0in (page 260); The London and Brighton Railway, authorised on 15 July 1837, was 4ft 9in (page 273); The Manchester and Birmingham Railway, authorised on 30 June 1837, was 4ft 9in (page 303); The Manchester and Leeds Railway, authorised on 4 July 1836, was 4ft 9in (page 319); the Northern and Eastern Railway,authorised on 4 July 1836, was 5ft 0in (page 363). The 4ft 9in railways were intended to take 4 ft 8½ in (1,435 mm) gauge vehicles and allow a running tolerance. The rest of the railways in England, excluding the Great Western Railway were 4 ft 8½ in (1,435 mm) gauge. I've not included Scotland, Wales or Ireland.
From this the so called standard gauge could be regarded as 4ft 8in to 5ft 0ft.
- Baxter, Bertam (1966). (The Industrial Archaeology of the British Isles. Stone Blocks and Iron Rails (Tramroads) Newton Abbott: David & Charles.
- Whishaw, Francis (1842). The Railways of Great Britain and Ireland: Practically Described and Illustrated. Newton Abbott: David & Charles Reprints. (published 1969) ISBN 0-7153-4786-1.
Pyrotec 20:13, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Copy and paste from User talk:Peter Horn Peter Horn 16:07, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Sarajevo (Bosnia and Herzegovina)
The metric value doesn't match the imperial one. Is it wider or narrower than Brunel's broad gauge? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.169.17.178 (talk) 10:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
The only references to gauges used to Sarajevo are a 760mm gauge and 'standard gauge'. I have removed the table entry until someone can find a citation. Brian R Hunter (talk) 16:51, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Southern Fuegian Railway
Is the track gauge 600 mm or 500 mm?? Peter Horn 01:20, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
