Talk:List of kosher animals

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[edit] Capon

I see the list includes capon (something I was unaware until yesterday even existed), but it got me to thinking... Rocky Mountain Oysters are treyf, so how can steers be kosher, in the same way, how can capons be, since they're also missing their betzim? Tomer^talk 18:41, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Eh...to be more precise, I'm wondering whether anyone knows of somewhere in the mishna that it covers the !/acceptability of castrating food animals. Tomer^talk 18:57, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

This says that capons are kosher.

Rocky Mountain oysters are a different issue. I understand that it's common practice on cattle ranches to castrate large numbers of male calves all at once making steers of them and leaving only a small number to become bulls and reproduce. I suspect this is where the oysters come from and I understand that it violates kashrut to eat any part of an animal cut from its body while it's still alive. Kosher animals must be inspected to be sure they are "unblemished", but I don't know if castration violates this. Even if the testicles are removed post mortem, the processing of any part of the hindquarters of a hooved animal is extremely difficult and expensive under kashrut and seldom done outside Israel. On top of that, there some portions of the carcass that are forbidden under any circumstances, and this may include the gonads. --Steven J. Anderson 08:07, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Right, I understand it's in the list...if it weren't, not only would I not have asked the question, I still wouldn't know that there was such a thing as a "capon". :-) Tomer^talk 21:24, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

I have removed it from the list because it is really the same animal as a chicken. Also, I am not sure if it is kosher since it may be considered a treifa. Jon513 19:24, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

So all that remains now is to find a source. :-) Tomer^talk 21:24, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Just to let you guys know, I was the one that added capon into the list. I got it from this article, which says they are kosher. That article has a lot of unsourced statements, so if anyone finds sources to this article, they could probably also be used there.--Kirby♥time 05:33, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, I figured that's where you got it, and doing a google search for +kosher +capon will turn up a lot of equally unsubstantiated assertions elsewhere that they're kosher. This assertion appeared at one point in Kashruth, at least as early as 2005 (see here), so it's hard telling how many of the other sources are using the WP assertion as their "authority". Tomer^talk 06:24, 30 April 2007 (UTC)