Talk:List of heavyweight boxing champions

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I've removed most of the full names from the table, as they make it harder to read - If somebody really wants to know all of Max Schmeling's middle names they can look on his page. I also removed the IBO title again, as it doesn't have the same status as the "big four". There's too many minor belts to list them all here. sjorford 10:04, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I was wondering should list of Heavyweight Champions be merged into list of heavyweight boxing champions ? It has most of the same content. 64.12.116.196 01:54, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Yes, that used to be a redirect here, somebody's overwritten it with duplicate content. Redirected back, as this list is much more complete. sjorford →•← 08:28, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 THE heavyweight championship 2 ??? 3 pre-Sullivan fighters 4 Needed Article/List Addition 5 Duplicate Hyperlinks

[edit] THE heavyweight championship

I note that of one enters 'workd heavyweight champions' for 'Go' or 'search' you get wrestling. Should not this sport, boxing, be the preferred redirect for that term? --Dumarest 14:29, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ???

The page was WAY better in the boxed form, who removed the boxes!!! --T00C00L 13:19, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I think it looks better without the table borders - otherwise the inline notes look rather odd. It's not like it's that hard to read in this state, is it? — sjorford++ 13:54, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] pre-Sullivan fighters

Why does this page start with John L. Sullvan?

As mentioned, Sullivan won the title from Paddy Ryan on February 7, 1882. Ryan won it from Joe Goss May 30, 1880. Goss won it from Tom Allen July 4 1876. Allen won it from Mike McCoole June 15, 1969 (or according to "www.todayinsport.com" Mike McCale September 23, 1873). McCoole won it from Bill Davis September 19, 1866.

All of these (except for Allen v. McCale) are listed elsewhere in the Wikipedia.

It seems to be because Sullivan was the last fighter to win the title fighting bare-fisted - all subsequent title fights were under Queensberry rules (although Sullivan was not the first to win under Queensberry rules). There used to be a clarification at the top of this page, which was removed for inaccuracy - it ought to be re-added in some form. The other option is to expand the list back to the earliest recognised "world champions", although this seems to go back a helluva long way. — sjorford++ 12:35, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Its mostly a matter of tradition. Most sources actually want to start with Corbett and try to sweep sullivan under the rug.

The true line is:

John L. Sullivan

Paddy Ryan

Joe Goss

Tom Allen

Mike McCoole

Joe Coburn

John Carmel Heenan

Joe Morrissey

James Ambrose (Yankee Sullivan)

Tom Hyer

The line breaks at Hyer in 1841. There is no continuity (at least in the US) before that time. The list is complicated by retirements but no more so than the modern era. And all of the boxers back to Hyer either fought the man before them (not always winning) or put up a challenge to them.

The lists that go back further usually end up being lists of prominant fighters in particular years. There are all kinds of lists that float around that try to rationalize boxing into certain titles in the 1800s and 1700s but many of them are not very credible as history. 70.234.220.44 01:42, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Needed Article/List Addition

You need to resize the listing and add the height and weight for each champion as height and weight key info in regard to all champions —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.192.1.172 (talk) 15:26, 2 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Duplicate Hyperlinks

Is there a reason why boxers who won the championship on multiple occasions have their names hyperlinked at every mention? Conventional Wikipedia format would dictate that the name only needs to be hyperlinked once within the same article, but I am not sure if there is a purpose that this multiple hyperlinking serves. If I do not get any objections, I am going to delete the duplicate hyperlinks in the article. ^{talk to}SailorAlphaCentauri 15:43, 9 August 2007 (UTC)