Talk:List of ecovillages

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[edit] External links

Regarding the recent deletion of all external links from this article, I was wondering if anyone can point to some guidelines that would clarify whether this is the best thing to do or not. I realize that extensive external links are not desirable in articles, but this particular article is a list, and so perhaps linking to as many ecovillages as possible, regardless of whether or not they have wiki articles, would be the way to go. I looked (briefly) through the external links guidelines, and didn't come across any information pertinent to list articles. But I assume that the person who deleted them can justify their actions with some clear guidelines. Thanks! romarin [talk ] 17:56, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Later

In fact, after more careful searching, I did find something related to list pages:

When deciding what to include on a list, ask yourself:
  • If this person/thing/etc., wasn't an X, would it reduce their fame or significance?
  • Would I expect to see this person or thing on a list of X?
  • Is this person or thing a canonical example of some facet of X?
Ideally each entry on the list should have a Wikipedia article but this is not required if it is reasonable to expect an article could be forthcoming in the future.

This is from Wikipedia:Lists (stand-alone lists).

Although slightly ambiguous, I would take from this that it is not necessary to delete all external links, as long as they are pertinent and if it is likely that an article will be made about them in the future. For someone interested in learning about ecovillages, they should be able to get a better idea of what is out there; for someone interested in starting more articles about them, they'll know what articles need to be made.

Due to this information, I am re-instating the external links for now. If someone really disagrees with this, please state your reasoning here. Thanks! romarin [talk ] 18:14, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List is very incomplete

This page lists around thirty ecovillages. The first external link http://gen.ecovillage.org/index_body.html lists over 500. This list should be radically expanded, or removed. — Epastore 02:17, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Europe

This list should include more villages from Europe, especially Germany, where tens of tousands of people lives in ecovillages. Also Nordic countries have many ecovillages. Also, there are many villages in Russia which are more ecological than many western european Eco villages. Still they are not called eco villages because they are not ecological on purpose. They are ecological like all villages were before the modern time. Tuohirulla puhu 14:51, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

While there doesn't seem to exist any ecovillage resource which even comes close to covering the whole bunch, Eurotopia seems to be the most complete in the case of Europe. Based on the hours I've spent browsing the 2005 edition, while comparing to the few databases covering ecovillages on the Internet, it seems that there are in fact not too many ecovillages in existence. It all depends, of course, on where you draw the quantitive lines for the term village with regard to population. My impression, though, is that while there exists an immense amount of small eco-communities, a vast minority is, in size, very far from what would commonly be recognised as a village. Most of these small settlements express a strong desire to become an ecovillage, but the demand for eco-radicals seems to far exceed the supply. :) Also, with regard to "unintentionally ecological villages", in most ecovillage definitions intention seems to be a central criterion. It is a major paradox though, that most traditional villages in less wealthy countries are likely to be more ecological than Western ecovillages, despite them not trying to. It would be very fair to note this in the ecovillage article. JonasRH (talk) 00:26, 16 January 2008 (UTC)