Talk:List of castles in Canada

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[edit] Trimming the list

I've removed the sundry hotels, forts, and other non-castles from the list. What is left is a list of mansions that are castles in name, or were built somewhat in the manner of a castle. Whether these are truly castles is moot. -- Lonewolf BC 17:27, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Lonewolf -

Agreed - a castle is, in the sense, a fortified building. A château (plural châteaux) is a manor house or residence of the lord of the manor or a country house of nobility or gentry, with or without fortifications, originally - and still most frequently - in French-speaking regions. Where clarification is needed, a fortified château can also be called a castle. An example is given as Château de Roquetaillade.

Now, as far as the forts, I ensured that they were listed on the List of forts page before removing them from this list. As far as others, it seems that - after further research - Rideau Hall is listed on the List of palaces page. Because most chateaux can be considered as a palace instead of a castle, I also moved Chateau Frontenac and Chateau Laurier to the List of palaces page (more properly suited being listed there). I also moved Government House (Nova Scotia) and Parliament Hill to the List of palaces article, as they are more suitably listed there.

The rest should qualify for this list - whether private residence like or castle ruins, which can both be listed. This provides more of an explanation for future readers than simply trimming the list without explanation (nor ensuring that such deletions appear elsewhere). Rarelibra 17:43, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I removed the ruinous fort in Newfoundland again, though, because it was surely a gunpowder-age fort, which is not the same thing as a castle ("Castle Hill" notwithstanding). Further, the two hotels ("Chateau...") do not belong in a list of palaces, and neither do the parliament buildings. (The hotels make an interesting case of the transferance of usage, "chateau" originally being French for "castle", the term becoming applied to mansions (or palaces) as the nobility abandoned fortification of their homes, and from that usage, with its associations of luxury, being taken into the names of grand hotels (and I suppose some not-so-grand ones, also, sooner or later. However, the point is that they are not palaces). Myself, I'm not convinced that the mansions which are "castle" in name, castle-like in form (more or less, and in some cases scarely at all) or both are truly castles, either. A list of mansions might be a better place for them -- just a though. -- Lonewolf BC 18:32, 31 July 2007 (UTC)