Talk:List of blue-eyed soul artists

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[edit] Additions and subtractions

Added "The O-kaysions" a white pop/r&b group who had a top ten r&b hit in 1967 with "Girlwatcher." Added Wild Cherry who won Grammies in the R&B category in 1976 (also no. 1 R&B that year with Play That Funky Music). Removed Glenn Lewis because he's Afro-Canadian. Also removed Hernando's Hideaway - I don't see any evidence that this recording artist/group exists or they have made any major impact. The only information I have is the sample of the song, "Hernando's Hideaway" used by the R&B singer, Debelah Morgan in 2000 for "Dance With Me." I am probably going to put some tags on the top - because this list is somewhat questionable. I might look at this list periodically and do some research to clean it up as well.

04:49, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Eddie Hinton

Removed Eddie Hinton... He was never considered a true performer; he was a songwriter/guitarist for R&B sessions in the South. He may have released an album or albums in the past - but generally most of his impact was through his songwriting and his session work. He was also misplaced in the 80's-present category - when the body of his work was in the 60s....

18:09, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Phil Collins/Hanson

Who put this in here... Checked the Wiki bio on both and it doesn't fit here... However Peter Gabriel did crossover a few times...but that's again subjective.

18:17, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rolling Stones/Rod Stewart

I would say OK to this one - by the barest of margins... They both had their r&b crossover record and the record went no.1 pop because of it... The Stones with "Miss You" in 1978 and Rod Stewart's "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy" in 1979. The majority of their work never got played on soul stations - but these songs did.

18:28, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

  • Rod Stewart started his career in the 1960s singing soul and R&B. Thus the nickname "Rod the Mod." The Rolling Stones started their career in the 1960s playing R&B, but I'm not sure if they would be described as playin soul.Spylab (talk) 13:26, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

True in both senses... The Stones played mostly blues-based rock with some R&B covers (such as songs by Smokey Robinson). Rod did sing R&B - but the majority of his recording career was mostly blues-based material and standard rock and pop stuff.

20:14, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Moves

Moved Carola to new subcategory Finland.... Moved The Action (English), Average White Band (Scottish) and Pete Wingfield (English) to United Kingdom subcategory. Moved Dan Penn (success in the 60's) to the 60's and 70's subcategory.

18:45, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Correct

Madonna, Pink, Gwen Stefani, Fergie are indeed correct... All of them did crossover at one point or another especially Madonna; her first album was produced by Reggie Lucas best known for his work with Stephanie Mills. That first album, especially certain cuts sounds a lot like the Lucas/Mtume tandem with Mills in the early 80s. e.g. compare the beginning of the song "Borderline" with Stephanie Mills "Never Knew Love Like This Before" - a signature electric piano/organ? riff in the beginning.

18:42, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] McCartneys

With a lot of debate... I added Paul McCartney - he's the only Beatle to have a number one on the soul charts (The Girl Is Mine with Michael Jackson), and not only that he has crossed over a couple of times more because of his collaborations with Stevie Wonder and Michael Jackson. This was only in the early 80's that he went through this supposed R&B phase.

Also added Jesse McCartney who is an actual blue eyed r&b singer/songwriter. Co-wrote the number one hit for Leona Lewis, "Bleeding Love." He would be a younger counterpart to Justin Timberlake as much as Chris Brown is to Usher.

18:42, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Soul Survivors

Added The Soul Survivors... Before Hall & Oates - they were the pre-eminent Philly blue-eyed soul act and were produced by Gamble & Huff. Best known for their one big hit, "Expressway To Your Heart" in 1968.

19:28, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Gino Vannelli/Robbie Nevil

Like some of these artists listed... They can work in multiple styles. Gino was added...he was the first Canadian artist to ever appear on "Soul Train" in 1975. The single "I Just Wanna Stop" crossed over into the R&B charts in addition of being a Top 5 hit back in 1978. He recorded mostly in an R&B style in the late 70s - before becoming more of a pop and even a new wave/dance artist in the 80s.

Robbie Nevil put four songs on the R&B charts in the late 80's and early 90's - then turned his focus to producing or writing for recording artists such as Jessica Simpson, etc...His big one was "C'est La Vie" which was Top Ten Pop & R&B in 1986. He also wrote for Earth, Wind & Fire, The Starship, etc. Actually knew somebody who worked with him in the San Francisco Bay Area - and he was out scouting for talent eventually working with a young singer who was signed to Columbia Records (album never got out). However, Nevil is a underrated songwriter which belies his short stature (he stood about 5' 3" when I saw him at this function he attended).

20:09, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rhythm Syndicate/Jane Child

Added the early 90's blue eyed r&b/funk group known as Rhythm Syndicate - better known as songwriters Evan Rogers & Carl Sturken. They had that one huge hit in 1991, P.A.S.S.I.O.N. which crossed over into the R&B charts-but mainly wrote songs for other artists which include Nia Peeples, Donny Osmond, NSYNC and Rihanna. Also added female funk artist, Jane Child who went top five pop and top ten R&B with "Don't Want To Fall In Love," in 1990. She is listed under subcategory, Canada.

02:15, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Boy George

If The Animals/Eric Burdon and Steve Winwood/Spencer Davis Group are to be listed separately, so does Culture Club/Boy George too. Boy George was one of the earliest new jack artists of the late 80's working with Teddy Riley and had a huge solo R&B hit in 1988 "Don't Take My Mind On A Trip."

02:36, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Emily Elbert

Removed her - she may have some "soulful tunes" - but in reality she's a modern singer-songwriter. Her influences are the legendary singer/songwriter/folk singer, James Taylor and the Brazilian singer/songwriter Antonio Carlos Jobim. Her style may have elements of soul, but after all.. James Taylor also covered R&B tunes as well as doing pseudo R&B based originals such as "Your Smiling Face." Her style is more blues/jazz/folk than anything in the traditional soul/r&b sense (e.g. Tracy Chapman, Joan Osborne). She would be a much better fit in the singer/songwriter article in Wikipedia.


19:18, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] John Valenti

Added John Valenti. Known for his R&B crossover hit, "Anything You Want," in 1976 which is best described as a uncanny Stevie Wonder impersonation. The song (the same as the album title) reached its peak a few months before Stevie actually released his biggest album, "Songs In The Key Of Life."

18:08, 10 June 2008 (UTC)