Talk:List of U.S. states by area

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Is this article meant to be tripled? john k 19:30, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Shouldn't miles come before kilometers in the chart? After all, American statistics on geographical area are generally written in miles not kilometers.

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[edit] West Virginia

can we get a better picture? seriously, there is a picture of a rocky cliff along the roadside and it claims to be WV. I dont get it. WikiTony 05:24, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree... I was going to delete it, but I didnt want to start any wars or anything. I also tried to clean up most of the picture descriptions--a lot of them used pronouns to make it [grammatically] appear that the thing pictured (not the state itself) had a certain area or something. //MrD9 06:16, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Someone has to be bold :) Most of the pictures are completely irrelevent to the article. Just random American skylines or views of rocks. Diliff | (Talk) (Contribs) 13:02, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Total area

On this page, it says Maryland has a total area of 12,407 square miles (32,133 square km). On the page for Maryland, it says 12,417 square miles (32,160 km²). Which of these is correct? --Smiller933 21:29, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

The Census Bureau gives Maryland's area as 12,406.68 square miles.[1] I'll correct the Maryland page. -- Avenue 13:05, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] water area

would it be better to list the water area by percentage rather than overall? -- Astrokey44|talk 23:48, 29 March 2006 (UTC)


[edit] definition of water area?

Water area isn't defined. Comparing some listed data for Michigan, New Jersey, and Hawaii, it appears that (apart from the area of enclosed lakes and rivers) water area is defined as the shore length times 12 miles (the usual, but not universal, territorial limit). Can someone please confirm this and footnote the column heading, or otherwise define terms and assumptions? Paulownia5 21:40, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Water area needs to be defined. Land Area is a cleare defination, yet water area is not... Does it only incorperate landlocked water or also shorelines?

I added some defining characteristics extracted from Census 2000 Geographic Terms and Concepts. Land area isn't entirely straightforward either. -- Avenue 12:54, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

There's no hard and fast rule for all water boundaries. For the ocean and sea coasts, the area defined should be up to the 12-mile limit. For river boundaries, it's normally up to the middle of the channel unless otherwise defined by law, such as the Potomac, which belongs to Maryland in its entirety. There is no 12-mile limit for the Great Lakes; those boundaries were defined by the Treaty of Paris in 1783. Great Lakes boundaries between states are defined in law, which explains why Isle Royale is in Michigan despite being much closer to Ontario and Minnesota. -- SpanishCastleMagic (talk) 03:06, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rhode Island

Image:RI towns labeled.png is deleted from Commons for having a non-commercial license. [2]--Jusjih 12:10, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Non States

I know it kind of defeats the purpose of the title, but lists like this commonly have at least Washington DC and Puerto Rico included. I think we should add them here as well for comparison. Papercrab 22:39, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree. For one thing, the Census Bureau tables I've seen that provide this information include both these entities. DC's in the list now. Does anyone object to Puerto Rico being added? -- Avenue 13:17, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
No objection here, and I'll get right to adding them to the list. Frank12 22:00, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Here's the CIA World Factbook page I got the territories' information from: [3] Frank12 01:58, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Top Image

You know, I really think that the image at the top of the page would be more effective if it visually demonstrated that Alaska is nearly three times the size of Texas. In the current image, it appears to be smaller. I'll sleuth around for something permissible, but if anyone has one or knows how to make one, that too would be excellent. CharacterZero | Speak 03:29, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I added the one that I made from the image at Wikipedia Commons. It doesn't have all of the Aleutian Islands on it, but I figured it worked for the most part. Frank12 01:13, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Land Area removal

Why was the land area removed, that should be included along with total and water. The color coded picture next to total is only land area not total area so it should be removed if there is no land area. I will be adding land area back to this page. Strunke 16:07, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Georgia and Michigan land area

I'm pretty sure Georgia has more...please fix —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.141.5.124 (talkcontribs)

Currently the list gives Michigan and Wyoming special treatment, using more recent figures provided by those two states. Unless someone can give a good reason to believe that these more recent figures are more accurate, I believe we should use the Census Bureau figures throughout. This would incidentally put Georgia ahead of Michigan on land area. -- Avenue 06:32, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
The state numbers are more accurate. Census bureau information is for collecting data on the people not the geography itself. If they are off a little with this information they don't really care as much. The land area for Michigan is 58,110 sq. miles with 38,575 of great lakes water. Strunke 19:02, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Missing info

Each table should also tell what percentage of the national area each state makes up, by each criterion. --Kevlar (talkcontribs) 10:15, 12 June 2008 (UTC)