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Famous Scots is a repositioning of the Famous Scotsmen page. One wonders whether a No True Scot fallacy page will be forthcoming? sjc

Tony Blair Isn't Scottish

I removed him from the list. Yes, he was born in Scotland, but he isn't Scottish. An analogy for you:

Keanu Reeves's mother was British and his father was Hawaiian\Chinese. He was born in Lebanon, but was raised in Canada. Hence, the article on Keanu Reeves says he is "British-Canadian." Not Lebanese.

Tony Blair's father was English and his mother was Irish. He was born in Scotland, but was raised in England. Hence, Tony Blair is English, not Scottish. Neither of his parents were Scottish and he was not raised in Scotland, therefore he is not Scottish.

71.246.209.4 10:31, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

He has been put back for some unexplained reason. For once the stable rejects the horse! Rcpaterson 01:52, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Scottish - Adj. - Of a person, native to or born in Scotland. Wikipedia is not a soapbox. If you are looking for an avenue to express you feelings on the relationship between race and nationality you are in the wrong place. -- IslaySolomon | talk 05:35, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- Comment I have restored Tony Blair to the list and provided a reference from a reliable source. Personal feelings are utterly irrelevant here, Wikipedia is not a soapbox or a publisher of original thought. If you want to discuss inclusions or exclusions from this list may I suggest that you provide evidence from reliable sources and keep your opinions to yourselves. -- IslaySolomon | talk 05:49, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

I've no wish to re-open the debate about the English-style "comes from place" or the German-style "born to parents" methods of identifying nationality, but just to prevent an untruth from lurking unchallenged, it's misleading to say Blair was "not raised in Scotland" when of course he lived in Edinburgh at the start of his life, in Glasgow later on in his childhood, and later attended a school in Scotland, at Fettes College. – Kieran T ^{(talk | contribs)} 02:46, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

I was under the impression Scots were of both sexes (unlike Scotsmen) so that might be why it's been moved.

Why is there also List of Scottish writers? Is this somehow different from the entry on this page? Dduck 18:58, 25 Nov 2003 (UTC)

How are we deciding whether someone should have an entry on this page? For example, on what grounds is William Thomson here? Marnanel 23:05, 26 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Why is Stan Laurel on this page? He was born in England. He went to school in Scotland for a bit, that's all. Ben davison 15:35, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bonnie Prince Charlie?

Bonnie Prince Charlie-the "damned cowardly Italian"-is about as Scottish as 'German Geordie' or Swiss cheese. He may have been a scion of the house of Stewart, but his 'Scottish blood' was highly etiolated: far more French, Italian and Polish than anything else. Removed. Rcpaterson 00:52, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

My apologies. I have just re-instated Charlie boy. He may have been born without these shores for political reason, but I think the idea of using his genetic make-up to exclude him from this list is highly dubious if not downright racist. Brendandh 03:39, 12 December 2006 (UTC)