Talk:List of Pantheists
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[edit] Can anyone show that Sitting Bull was a Pantheist?
I have not seen anything that would indicate that Sitting Bull was a Pantheist. Is there is any evidence to that effect?
I know the quote "Every seed has awakened and so has all animal life. It is through this mysterious power that we too have our being and we therefore yield to our neighbours, even our animal neighbours, the same right as ourselves, to inhabit this land." But I would like to see some more context. Is this "power" all of his beliefs, or are there beliefs in spirits or gods besides this?
For that matter, why not add Chief Seattle? Although the source of his famous speech is in doubt, it could be argued that he inspired those thoughts, even though they were not his exact words. You could claim that he is, at least, as someone with Pantheist beliefs.
It may be more accurate to claim Native Americans as People with Pantheist Beliefs, the same way the ancient Greeks are. --vandermude 22:51, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Is Nietzsche a Pantheist?
Can someone show where Nietzsche put himself like a Pantheist? Or simply show someone who have characterized him like it? --DrLutz 15:19, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
- Will I take out him from the list without oposition? DrLutz 19:02, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] I think it would be wrong to call Einstein a pantheist.
In a biography of Einstein, this is what Einstein said in an interview with a journalist. The question was "Do you believe in the God of Spinoza?"
- "I can't answer with a simple yes or no," he replied. "I am not an atheist and I do not know if I can define myself as a pantheist."
I think it would be wrong to call Einstein a pantheist. I am removing his name from the List of Pantheists.
[edit] I am re-adding the name of Einstein
Well! It seems to me that Einstein was a pantheist. Einstein said, "I am not an atheist and I do not know if I can define myself as a pantheist." He himself was not clear whether he was a pantheist or not. However, some comments made by Einstein suggest that he was a pantheist. For example, Einstein's famous epithet on the Heisenberg uncertainty principle was 'God does not play dice.' In this statement, Einstein used 'God' as a metaphor for nature. Einstein can be categorized as a Naturalistic pantheist.
I am re-adding the name of Einstein in the List of Pantheists. The reason for the confusion was, Einstein was himself not sure whether he was a pantheist or not.
- Shouldn't people be allowed to self-identify? If he wasn't sure of his own religious stance, then isn't it a bit presumptuous to say that we know better than he? AnnieHall 05:41, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cites! For the love of ... whatever!
For such a controversial topic, I'm pretty surprised to see that this article contains not a single cite. (Compare the emphasis on cites at List of atheists.)
Mention of living persons here without cites may even be a violation of WP:BLP. -- Writtenonsand (talk) 07:29, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
