Talk:List of Cowboy Bebop characters

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[edit] Edward

[edit] Original Character Design

Is there a source for the information about the original character design, including the idea that the orginal character design is in one episode? Hackwrench 05:40, 18 June 2006 (UTC) Also Ed needs a image.

um isn't ein a girl?

Ein's a boy. Ein is referred to as "he" by Jet. ForestAngel (talk) 19:33, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm assuming that who ever wrote that meant either Spike or Jet stole the magazine, but failed to mention who...68.32.154.156 04:22, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

What I'm wondering is, why does Jet sound black in the American dub? ForestAngel (talk) 19:33, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vicious

I added some information about him, mostly based on the guidebok 'The After' (ISBN4-04-853103-4). --Mufurc 13:12, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Faye's gun

I could have sworn Faye Valentine carried a GLOCK 26, not a GLOCK 30? Orca1 9904 15:01, 15 September 2006 (UTC)Orca1_9904

[edit] Three Old Men

The article presumptuously states that in Episode 23-Brain Scratch the corpse of one of The Three Old Men (presumably Jobin) can be spotted. This is pretty objectionable, as the only frames we see of the corpse are shaded and there is hardly enough evidence (facial features? type and color of clothing?) to justifiably indicat it is one of the old men.

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There are several sources which hint at the same but to say it is the gospel is a bit far. I mean the bloody shirt looks more white to me (whereas Jobin's is yellow) and I can't see any distinguishable facial marks. This statement should be at least changed to show there is no certainty.--70.65.187.113 22:33, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Faye's article

I rewatched the Real Folk Blues episodes(and the whole series over the week) and I realised that Spike did NOT leave the ship to seek Julia when he upset Faye -who fired 5 shots into the ceiling- he had already found Julia and she was already dead. He left the ship in order to fight Vicous only! That's what upset Faye as she knew the possiblities of him not coming back. And yes she did know Julia was dead anyway because she heard everything Spike had said from round the corner. Therefore I took out the part about him seeking Julia as it was not correct, he only went to seek Vicous.


However that now means the sentence: "Though he comes to see her as a companion, Spike does not seem to have romantic feelings for Faye, as could be evidenced by his decision to seek and face Vicious in The Real Folk Blues, a decision which upsets Faye to the point where she fires her pistol into the ceiling five times as Spike leaves." doesn't realy make sense any more as it is no longer realy evidence if he only went to seek Vicous. So it needs rephrasing. Blindfold 09:04, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Red Eye

I've been meaning to ask this for a long time... Why does everyone seem to believe that Vicious uses Red Eye? I mean, apart from the fact that he's a bad guy thus he's the first suspect by default. But other than that, we never see him having anything to do with Red Eye, except for smuggling it, during the time the story takes place, and there's no hint whatsoever that he was the one who used the vial on the table.

I can't check RFB at the moment, but in the flashback in episode 5 first we see Spike fighting with syndicate guys, firing first from a bouquet of roses; then a rose falling; the Red Eye on a table with roses; then in the next shot Spike is mowing people down. I know that the scenes are not necessarily in chronological order, but still, there's no Vicious in sight during the church fight, in fact, it seems to me that he wasn't even present (which is very possible if he's half as clever as we're expected to believe). While Spike draws the grenade out from his pocket we hear and see people firing at him, so he's definitely not in a duel with Vicious. I see no reason for Vicious to use Red Eye if he wasn't going to fight Spike one-on-one, which he apparently didn't do. (And let's not forget the roses: there are red roses beside the vial of Red Eye on the table. But why would've Vicious had roses? It was Spike who had a bouquet of roses, and I'm pretty sure he hadn't stopped by to give a few of them to Vicious.)

As for his appearance, it doesn't scream "Red Eye addict" to me... it screams "insomniac" and "psycho", neither of which have necessarily anything to do with Red Eye. Besides, apparently he's always had white hair and bags under his eyes, they just got worse after the incident with Spike and Julia. (Btw, according to my personal theory his appearance is more symbolic than anything, but that's a different matter.) And the "affinity towards Red Eye deals"... eh? IIRC he does it only once in the show, and that's because Gren requested to deal with him.

Anyway, I'd be glad if someone clarified this for me because the article heavily suggests that Vicious used Red Eye, but I see no proof of that anywhere. --Mufurc 14:35, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image needed

Spike needs an image. -Yancyfry

Heck, pretty much everyone needs an image. -Yancyfry 02:24, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] not good...

This page is not well written, at all. I've started fixing the Gren and Spike sections, but I'll probably be back to fix the rest of it after I finish watching the series. The grammar is not good, there are lots of mistakes, and there are lots of POV and non-encyclopedic statements (like saying Spike is attractive(I editted that out)). So, someone really needs to go through and fix it. It'll probably end up being me. Dan Guan 00:12, 9 February 2007 (UTC)


I intend to contribute to the page. Will need some time to brush up with the anime and hopefully, will also be able to upload the necessary pictures (BTW, can one upload screenshots from the series? At the moment, I have the series with me).

Heavynash 13:12, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jeet Kune Do?

This article (plus the description of Waltz for Venus) states that Spike's fighting style is Jeet Kune Do. Are we sure about that? The lesson he gives to Roco sounds more like Aikido than anything else to me. Is there a link where the creators of the show talk about Spike's martial art style as being within a specific tradition? --Hermitage 06:54, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

The Watanabe talks about how Spike's moves are inspired by Bruce Lee. Bruce Lee used Jeet Kune Do. The point of Jeet Kune Do is that it's mixed and not to be an "official" school of martial arts. That's why it seems mixed with aikido. ForestAngel (talk) 19:31, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Red Eye section

Why is there a section on Red Eye in the Cowboy Bebop characters article? I personally think that if the information is to be included at all, it should be in a different article than this, though I don't think that it warrants its own article. Any thoughts? Apollo Gilgamesh (talk) 00:18, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

If its been removed (seems to have been) it should have been moved elsewhere and links updated.. It redirects back to the same page clicked from.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.205.91.3 (talk) 17:18, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

I updated the link on this page. I don't know where would be a suitable place to move the information (it doesn't seem to warrant its own article), but I removed from here because it certainly doesn't belong in a "List of Cowboy Bebop characters" article. Apollo Gilgamesh (talk) 00:14, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Here's the Red Eye content for future reference:

Red Eye is a fictional drug in the anime series Cowboy Bebop. In the english verison of the series the drug was refered to as "bloody eye". The drug is taken as an aerosol substance directly into the user's eyes and can give the user periodic surges of superhuman reflexes and a slowed perception of time. Popular belief is that the drug increases the connection from eyes to brain (processing information on the environment so quickly that everything moves in slow motion) to the point of dodging punches or even bullets. Red Eye appears to be one of the largest commodities of the various criminal syndicates throughout the solar system in Cowboy Bebop. Like many real drugs, heavy and prolonged use has a detrimental effect on the user. The effect of enlarging the eyes prompts the suggestion that Red Eye also expands the entire ocular body, literally causing the eye to bulge out of the socket, making it impossible to blink or shift the eyes' line of sight. Red Eye was developed by an unknown military institute, for use on soldiers. The Inter-Solar System Police (ISSP) considers it a high-priority/heavy-class substance, but is unable to get much of a hold on "illegal" leaking and marketing of the drug. Red Eye is very addictive, and characters shown using it are depicted with shaking hands and blood-shot eyes during withdrawal. After-effects include tremors and vomiting. Jet, a former ISSP detective knows several officers, including one he keeps in touch with for information, who might have either used or sold Red Eye canisters stolen from evidence rooms. A version of Red Eye known as Bloody Eye is mentioned in the first episode of Cowboy Bebop, and is apparently a higher-end (purer/more powerful) version.

  • During the flashbacks depicting the inside of Julia's apartment, a canister of Red Eye and an application device can be seen sitting on her windowsill.

Apollo Gilgamesh (talk) 00:40, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Edward Wong Hau Pepelu Tivrusky IV??

shouldnt it say just "Ed"? I mean, 99% of times shes called "Ed" or "Edward".. but "Edward Wong Hau Pepelu Tivrusky IV?"

[edit] Pictures

What happened to the pictures? Can someone get some more of them or something? Like screenshots or whatever? ForestAngel (talk) 03:41, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Individual images for each character in a list article violate WP:NONFREE, which is probably why they were all removed. Someone needs to find 1-3 group images to use. At the current size of the list, really probably just one. Collectonian (talk) 19:46, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Gren session12.JPG

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BetacommandBot (talk) 23:22, 13 February 2008 (UTC)