Talk:List of Cape Verdeans
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[edit] Split into 3 different articles
I think that someone is making a little confusion here. This list lists three different things (in no particular order):
- Cape Verdean people, with Cape Verdean nationality;
- Cape Verdean people that have a acquired a different nationality;
- people that are not Cape Verdean, but are of Cape Verdean descent;
I don’t know what’s the relevance of such kind of lists, but since they are here, I won’t contest them. What I really think that it should be done is to split this list into 3 separate things:
- Cape Verdean people;
- people from Cape Verdean descent;
- to be more precise, Cape Verdean people that have changed nationality are, for all purposes, of that new nationality, therefore they should be listed in articles such as, American people, Portuguese people, French people, Swedish people, and so on.
This explanation is to justify the changes I intend to do. Ten Islands 11:16, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Division of Cape Verdean Nationalities
I agree with some of what you say.
1) there are Cape Verdean people, with Cape Verdean nationality - those who never left the island to live elsewhere.
2) Cape Verdean people that have a acquired a different nationality
-- that is also true. However, that is assuming that the person gave up their citizenship, like is required in the United States. However, countries like Canada and Cape Verde still recognize citizenship of their nationals, even though the US does not. Being a citizen of one country does not always negate citizenship to another country. Hence, someone can be both a Cape Verdean and American citizen, but only be recognized as both by Cape Verde and not the United States. That is why I classify these Cape Verdeans under both categories.
3)people that are not Cape Verdean, but are of Cape Verdean descent - I was using Cape Verdean in the broadest sense of the word. Since there are more Cape Verdeans outside the country than inside Cape Verde. However, I will concede on this point.
I can agree to partially agree to two categories:
* Cape Verdean people; * people from Cape Verdean descent;
But not to this one
"* to be more precise, Cape Verdean people that have changed nationality are, for all purposes, of that new nationality, therefore they should be listed in articles such as, American people, Portuguese people, French people, Swedish people, and so on."
What happens to dual citizens? Why would we be choosing their identification. Why not put under both identification until a citizenship is renounced or the person states their preference?
Josedosanjos 13:00, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
- I agree. I see no trouble at all listing people with more than one nationality in more than one list. But it would be relevant to mention the nationality change, though. Ten Islands 07:36, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
I would like to correct the statement made above regarding holding dual (or multiple) citizenship with the United States and another country. The author above debates under what circumstances a person of Cape Verdean descent or nationality can be considered as Cape Verdean and states that Canada and Cape Verde recognize dual citizenship but that the United States does not, leading to a conclusion that would preclude American citizens of Cape Verdean descent from being considered as "Cape Verdeans" due to their present American citizenship. Well, this premise is false because the United States DOES recognize dual citizenship. This is, frankly, well known and millions of U.S. citizens also hold citizenship in another country. You can see the official U.S. policy on dual citizenship on the State Department web page:
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html
I am a dual U.S.-Cape Verdean citizen of Cape Verdean descent on one side of my family and I have passports for both countries. No law in either country forbids me from exercizing my rights of citizenship in both countries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.66.42.18 (talk) 20:33, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
