Talk:Linda Smith (comedian)

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[edit] Linda Smith's Humanism

I reverted the deletion of "Satan being more a figure of speech for Smith than for many" because I felt it was an apt reference to her Humanist philosophy. I can't think of a reason to remove it. If you can, then please explain here. thanks. Veej 07:14, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

  • I entirely agree, but perhaps the reference would seem less oblique if it were directly associated with an acknowledgement of her Humanism. Presumably that is why it was earlier deleted? - Stevecov 11:04, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
    • "Satan being more a figure of speech for Smith than for many" is largely mystifying to me. Does it mean she used this "figure of speech" (if that's what it is) more often than "many"? Does it mean that it was more figurative, ie less literal, for her than "many"? Or something else? And what evidence is there for these ideas? Now I learn it was something to do with Humanism, though I doubt anyone would have got that reference -- but why would a humanist refer to Satan more often, or more figuratively, than "many"? The use of the word as part of comic exaggeration is commonplace and don't see any reason to associate it particularly with Smith. This phrase, even reworded to make it comprehensible is at best a piece of unverifiable original thought and I think it should stay deleted. Flapdragon 11:48, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
  • I believe the comment means that "Satan" was more figurative and less literal, for her than "many". Because she was a humanist the concept of the devil held much less meaning for her than many religious/spiritual people. Veej 16:37, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure that many people believe in Satan in the UK - the vast majority of my aquiantances don't Dmn Դմն 16:59, 7 March 2006 (UTC). Dmn Դմն 16:59, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I just deleted this clause again, and I did so before I noticed the discussion on here. I think the phrase is inappropriate. I can't see any particular reason to leave it in. Is the intention to make people "get the joke" by saying the LS wasn't really intending to imply that he really is "Satan's bearded folk singer" - because she didn't infact believe in Satan? -and so it's okay to laugh at it? Or what? Jooler 01:19, 14 March 2006 (UTC) - If, in reply to some question she had said - "God knows?" - would we imply that because she didn't beleive in God that she was intending to convey even more of a mystery than someone who did beleive in God? Ot was she just using a phrase borne out of the culture in which we live? Jooler

I agree. Dmn Դմն 14:27, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Veej explained his/her thinking in more detail on my Talk page. I still don't agree though, FWIW I think the sentence was mystifying and illogical. Flapdragon 14:17, 15 March 2006 (UTC)