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More information about this article... The following comments have been left for this page: Lily Pons' voice was not "small." She was a lyric coloratura - having a high voice, which is what coloratura's are known for. Coloratura's also have great flexibility, which is why they can do the most difficult cadenza's. Lyric voices are very clear. Espinto sopranos and coloratura's have a silver shimmer (timbre). They also must never sing too loud, "like the head of a pin," the famous Mother/Daughter singers Nina and Marina Koshetz used to say. It is the voice most easily damaged by over-singing, by ignorant director's and conductor's who have not the connoiseurship (sp?) to know what a coloratura voice is and the range and roles it is suited for. (edit)

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Comments: edit  · history  · watch  · purge Lily Pons' voice was not "small." She was a lyric coloratura - having a high voice, which is what coloratura's are known for. Coloratura's also have great flexibility, which is why they can do the most difficult cadenza's. Lyric voices are very clear. Espinto sopranos and coloratura's have a silver shimmer (timbre). They also must never sing too loud, "like the head of a pin," the famous Mother/Daughter singers Nina and Marina Koshetz used to say. It is the voice most easily damaged by over-singing, by ignorant director's and conductor's who have not the connoiseurship (sp?) to know what a coloratura voice is and the range and roles it is suited for.

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Is this the same "Lily" in The Who's song- "Pictures of Lily" ? I've heard it was about an opera singer, but the song says "she's been dead since 1929". Anyone know ? Jcam 12:14, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

That was a reference to Lillie Langtry...

[edit] Francophile Bias?

Reading this article, one would never realise that Lily Pons lived for most of her life in Palm Springs, California.

[edit] Strange bit of trivia

Probably too trival for the article, and maybe better placed at the Serge Voronoff article, but here is a bit of trivia about Madame Pons: A TIME article, from 1940, says Lily Pons: "was kissed by an ape at Dr. Voronoff's monkey farm near Menton, France". Another TIME article, this time from 1936, says "Singer Lily Pons went to see the monkeys kept by Menton's famed Rejuvenating Dr. Serge Voronoff, got too close to a cage, was soundly bussed by an ape named Rastus." Carcharoth 15:13, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Small Voice

Lily Pons did not have a "small" voice. She was a lyric coloratura. Coloratura's have the beautiful, flexible, high voices. Lyric's are clear, Espinto's are silvery -- a voice's colors, or timbre. I have never come across a "dramatic" coloratura! The coloratura voice is the most easily damaged when an ignorant teacher or conductor, who does not have the connoissuership (or wishes to end a career), puts that type of voice into a role or range it is not suited for.

I studied voice with Marina Koshetz (daughter of Nina Koshetz, student of Felia Litvin, from Pauline Viardot). Unfortunately, Marina died a pauper. The last beautiful voice and great teacher. All's one hears in the opera and concert world are lousy screaming or rather loud voices. No singers today perform the older cadenza's of the famous arias requiring the voice of a light soprano or coloratura. Lily Pons did and could. But then, there are no teachers alive today who can properly train a coloratura.

Treat yourself to great and beautiful singing ... find a Koshetz album (Nina or Marina), or a Lily album pre-1946. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Signawp (talk • contribs) 02:10, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

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