Talk:Liburnian language
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This article was nominated for deletion on November 27, 2006. The result of the discussion was No consensus, default to keep. |
The whole information on this page seems to me very unreliable if not fake. Such long existence of a relict Indo-European language in Europe would be a scientific sensation; however, this language actually "exists" only in Wikipedia and its clones (and probably in the book written by Messrs. Yoshamya, which I have never seen). Isn't it strange? --Dmitri Lytov 14:56, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Indeed, most of the more fantastical-sounding stuff comes from a single banned user named "Winona Gone Shopping." This looks like a pretty clear hoax. algormortis 17:30, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- Perhaps unexpectedly, there is a "Neo-Liburnic" book listed in WorldCat - but confusion over the authors -
Title: Ranohrvatski srednjovjeki pradialekti = Parvanje harvâtje bjesydôj /
Author(s): Lovric, Andrija-Zeljko. Lovric, Mihovil.
Publication: Zagreb : Znanstveno drustvo za proucavanje podrijetla Hrvata, Year: 2005 Description: v. : ill. ; 31 cm.
Language: Croatian; Abstract in English and résumé in French; table of contents also in French.
Contents: knj. 1. Gan-Veyãn osce Bascânski besidãr : rjecnici istocnog Kvarnera-- Baska, Rab, Vinodol 28.700 besêd Standard No: ISBN: 9539612519 (set); 9539612527 (v. 1)
... Other Titles: Parvanje harvâtje bjesydôj; Archidiomes médiévaux protocorates; Old-Croatian medieval archidioms; Gan-Veyãn osce Bascânski besidãr =; Neo-Liburnic glossary grammar, culture, genom; Neo-Liburnic glossary grammar, culture, genom
Responsibility: Mitjel Yosamya & Zjelimêr Yosamya.
- I am finding other references to Liburnian, such as this listing, so it seems to be at least a hypothetical ancient language. Marco polo 02:54, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
There is not remotely enough information on the language of the Liburnians available to us to make emphatic claims - as this article does - about its affiliation with Venetic. A few names from the area (I only recognise two Venetic elements in the first list of names, rather than the "many" claimed in the article - and one of them is not even attested in Venetic personal names), which might or might not have been names of native Liburnians, prove little to nothing. Realising that one simply does not have enough data to say anything other than "we simply don't know at this stage" is an integral part of competent scholarship.
