Talk:LGBT culture in the Philippines

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"chikka-chikka" is a common Visayan expression for chismus. There's even an international text-messaging service aimed at Filipinos abroad called Chikka.com. It doesn't have particularly gay connotations, although maybe it did originally. 68.234.12.90 04:22, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

im placing a neutrality stub as this article does not conform to wiki standards NPOV --– Daimengrui talk 18:36, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

"2. Straight-acting gays or Discreet - These men are not effeminate and will not use make-up or cross-dress. They are found outside of the stereotyped gay professions. Sexual preferences vary with some willing to have sex with other Straight-acting gays while others will prefer straight men. Many also self-identify as bisexual, even if they only have sex with men, bisexual having been redefined locally to mean straight-acting. Those who belong in this group often discriminate against the effeminate gays accusing them of propagating negative stereotypes of the "screaming faggot." Straight-acting gays are called “pa-mhin” or “paminta” in Manila and “maya” in Visayas and Mindanao."

As a "straight-acting gay", I find this part of the article to be problematic. First of all, to call us "straight-acting" is unfair because it assumes that all gay men are effeminate, which is not true. Second of all, many of us come from both urban and rural backgrounds, which is why it was not accurate to say that most of us come from urban areas (I removed that part; hopefully it is not put back). Sometimes, I call myself bakla, but others say that I'm not, presumably because I don't act effeminate. Also, I don't discriminate against effeminate gays. Although I know that other Filipino "straight-acting gays" do have homophobic behavior toward effeminate gays, not all do, and I would say most do not. Also, this article ignores how "straight-acting gays" also receive homophobic treatment, not just effeminate gays (although I know that most of the ridicule and prejudism is against effeminate gays, but we still have problems with being accepted by others). Also, many "straight-acting gays" also like to have sex with effeminate gays. I think it's harder to give an accurate depiction of us "straight-acting gays" since our sexuality is usually not obvious to many people at first sight so we do not have to always have our sexuality out in the open and scrutinized publicly, so we can get away most of the time with people thinking we're "straight", and thus our inner thoughts, feelings, and perspectives about our sexualities and lives in general are just not known by the public. But articles like this do not help represent us... Gusto ko lang sabihin... (i just want to say it.....)

I agree with hat is said in this page

Homosexuality is inded a very hot issue in a predominantly Catholic country, specialy when there is no solidarity in the homosexual community.

Most effeminate gays are homophobic in a sense that they criticize "manly" or discreet gay guys as pretentious and afraid to show who they are (which comes from the misconception that being effeminate is a requirement/given if you are gay).

Most discreet gays also dislike the effeminate type simply because they beleive that "girly" gays give gays like them a bad name.

I wish we (me and the other gays in the Philippines) would be more educated about issues concerning our sexuality because it is not just a part of us, but it is something that can actually define who we are......ewan... (i dont know....)