Talk:LGBT characters in video games

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[edit] The Legend of Dragoon?

I do not know for sure, for I have just played the german version....But Lavitz and King Albert? Afair, Lavitz had an interest in rose, but were killed before he could tell her. And Albert felt in Love with this princess from the first city of the second disk? ôô

I'm also sure, that it was mentioned, that albert and Lavitz were close friends, since they were childs.

[edit] bully?

What about that newfangled Bully game? I'm pretty sure there's homosexuality in there. :D

Yup, it's there, and I added info on the Over the Rainbow achievement.VatoFirme (talk) 06:45, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] First game made by a transgendered person.

The article says: "It appears that the first game designed by a transgender person was a racing computer game in 1978 titled Wheeler Dealer and it was for the Apple IIGS." This can't be right, as the IIGS didn't exist in 1978. There must be some mistake here; my guess is that the date is wrong. Ben Standeven 06:43, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Summer and Autumn from Outlaw Golf 2

Should they be mentioned?

No mention of Fear Effect 2. No mention of Flea in Chrono Trigger/Chrono Cross. Umm...

[edit] Pop Culture Query

The game Donkey Kong was considered advanced in that it not only gave the hero a name, Jumpman (now known as Mario), but a clear ethnic background, gender, sexual orientation and career. The complexity present in Donkey Kong inspired Nintendo and Sega, two companies that recreated the video game industry with games that presented complex characterisations.

In that paragraph, where it says that Nintendo and Sega were inspired by the complexity in Donkey Kong to creat their own complex characterisations, isn't worded right. Nitendo actually created the original Donkey Kong game. How they could be inspired by something they created themselves seems a bit off. If someone could word this differently, it would be great.

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:GuyBrushCrossDressing.gif

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:PhantomOpera.gif

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BetacommandBot (talk) 16:28, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Birdo is transgender again

Just unlocked the Birdo trophy in Smash Bros. Brawl. It describes Birdo has having an "indeterminate gender", and that some say it wants to be called Birdetta - pronoun used to describe Birdo is "it". Added to article.VatoFirme (talk) 06:45, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

By the way here's one link for the SMB2 instruction manual: http://jarcas.dreamhosters.com/rdocs/Super_Mario_Bros_2_-_Manual_-_NES.pdf,

although this isn't the original one - the sentence "He would rather be called Birdetta" has been censored already in this version. I will keep searching for a scan of the original copy but this should help for now.VatoFirme (talk) 06:50, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Okay and p.s., I noticed an attempt to change the wording from "transgender" to "thinking he is a girl" was reverted, however the first edit was correct and the revert was not - the instruction booklet never uses the term "transgender", it literally says he thinks he is a girl. Using the term transgender implies the creators knew the term and understood what it means and intentionally created a cartoon character as having a transgender identity, which I think is very presumptuous and problematic, and not likely to be true at all. It also implies the manual contained the word "transgender" which it did not.VatoFirme (talk) 07:01, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Sigh. P.p.s. Just wanted to add that in case my link to the manual scan confuses anyone, you need to know that Birdo's and Ostro's names were mixed up in the early English translations, and obviously Nintendo fixed the problem since then.VatoFirme (talk) 07:15, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
You should add that footnote into the text - "(Birdo's and Ostro's names were mixed up in the early English translations, Nintendo has corrected the problem since.)" Benjiboi 18:51, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Shannara

Granted, it's been a few years since I've played Shannara, but I don't remember anything that implied he was gay at all...is this an accurate reference or is my memory just failing me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.198.241.62 (talk) 21:26, 21 May 2008 (UTC)