User:Lexein/Notes

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==Image:Winamp2.PNG== ^demon In reference to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Image:Winamp2.PNG (Speedy deleted per (CSD i7), was an image with an invalid fair use rationale and the uploader was notified more than 48 hours ago.)

1. Reinstate the image.
2. This was an off-policy deletion. I am the uploader, and received no notification via User_talk:Lexein, Email Special:Emailuser/Lexein, and no discussion on Talk:Winamp , or Image_talk:Winamp2.PNG(of course I can't check that page, since it was deleted). CSD I7 reads: Bad fair use template - image tagged as fair use with a template that is patently irrelevant to the actual image, like game-screenshot on a photo of a celebrity. Please notify uploader ON THEIR TALK PAGE using /{/{subst:badfairuse|image name including prefix|tag that was on the image/}/}.
3. I previously gave you the benefit of the doubt, since I added a rationale to another uploader's image. Now I believe you REPEATEDLY DELIBERATELY FAIL TO NOTIFY UPLOADERS.
4. Stop putting uploaders through hoops because you can't be bothered to notify them.
5. 48 HOURS is a ridiculous deadline. Where is _that_ stated as policy? (found it)

--Lexein 00:26, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Winamp2.PNG - Second Request

I reiterate points 1-4 above --Lexein 02:31, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

  1. Fine...whatev.
  2. I assume the tagger always notifies the uploader. I see so many done by bots (as they do the majority) that I assume notifications have been given. There isn't the time to check each one, as the backlogs are too immense for that level of detail checking on every image.
  3. Please AGF. It is not my job (as the deleting admin) to notify anyone, simply to carry out the deletion. Please see point 2 as well.
  4. Once again, it is the taggers responsibility to notify, not the deleting admin. See points 2 and 3.
From now on, please bug the tagger of the image, not me. Regards, ^demon[omg plz] 13:20, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
1. Thanks.
2. This is a false and dangerous assumption. If this is the assumption all DEL Admins make, then all tagging bots must be stopped and audited to verify that required notification is given.
3. Assuming good faith excludes willful exclusion of common sense. It is (or soon will be!) the deleting admins responsibility to verify that notification was given', or if this cannot be done easily, to post a (possibly redundant) notice. For DEL ADMINs to shirk here, gives drive-by no-notice taggers free reign. Once the image has been deleted, there is no record of any tags in the image's page, because it is gone!
4. How can I bug the tagger after you've deleted the image, after no notice was given? Think it through. No logs remain after deletion, except the deletion log. I'm not an admin, and therefore have no access to the deleted logs.

Del admins have a resp. to be policy-thorough, not blinkered. I have no animosity towards del admins, as long as they follow policy, AND the policy trail leading to the decision to delete. --Lexein 17:31, 31 August 2007 (UTC)