Talk:Leonard Feeney
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Please dont subtitute a non Wiki article over this article as it sits, instead help work to make this article better. Dominick 22:15, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Suggestions for Improvements
Why not: add a section on Feeney's extensive anti-semitic writings, and link to other wiki articles on the contemporary history of anti-semitism in the US and in the Catholic Church
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- The words “Feeneyite” and “Feeneyism” are very derogatory words used to label people. Labeling people has a very sinister end and final resolution. Unless you intend to exterminate/murder us, then may I suggest that you target a different group to hate? 04-26-2008.
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To parts could be added to the end - Last End & Feeneyites.
The section "Last End" should discuss the controversy over and circumstances of Feeney's reconciliation.
A Feeneyite has informed me that Bishop Reilly of Worcester has regularized the faction of the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary founded by Fr. Feeney residing at 282 Still River Rd, Still River, MA. This needs to be verified.
The section "Feeneyites" should record the division among the Feeneyites into some three or four autocephalous factions (Still River, Richmond, NH; Vienna, OH and Monrovia, CA), and reasons for their disagreements. Alternatively, Feeneyite should be erected into a separate page.
There is also need to link him to other subjects and persons within Wikipedia with a "See Also" tag. And the "External Links" can be broadened and subdivided into pro-, anti- and neutral websites / pages.
WikiSceptic 15:16, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] rv vandalism by 24.60.48.111
"But, of course this is self-contradictory and obviously false." Comments like that do not belong in an encyclopedia article. Try again to make your edits NPOV. JG of Borg 05:50, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] objectivity
It would seem the article lacks the objectivity an encyclopaedia should. (unsigned User:68.161.175.138)
added npov tag, the fact that it's missing anything after the schism leaves it unbalanced--Samuel J. Howard 03:54, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
The article lacks objectivity in that the responses from Father Feeney to his summons to Rome were (at least) arguably allowable (by Canon Law) explanations for disobedience. The page should quote the context and purpose of his letters as acceptable replies to the authority of the Church when dealing with refusal of obedience based upon dictates of conscience.
CORRECTION: Fr. Feeney was not excommunicated by His Holiness, Pope Pius XII. This is false. Archbishop Cushing of Boston, MA did so.
[edit] Plagiarism
This article plagiarizes the article written by sedevacantist group leader Bishop Clarence Kelley, of the SSPV. The original can be found here: http://www.ihm-church.org/PDF/003_The%20Case%20of%20Fr.%20Leonard%20Feeney.pdf
[edit] Possible Amendments
The following parts of the article need clarification:
"The doctrine Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus, (hereafter abbreviated EENS), thus became the controversial center of Fr. Feeney's doctrines. In time, his name was so closely associated with it that many came to believe that his eventual excommunication was due to his rigid version of this doctrine, which is incorrect. As we have already pointed out, even The New York Times reported that Fr. Feeney was 'excommunicated... for preaching that there was no salvation outside the Roman Catholic Church.'"
The author of this passage writes that Father Feeney was NOT excommunicated for his teaching EENS, but then quotes a New York Times article saying he WAS excommunicated for that reason. If the author meant, in the first part, that Father Feeney was excommunicated for disobedience and not for his teaching of EENS, then the Times quotation contradicts the author's meaning.
Then there is this sentence under the headline "Communal Raising of Children":
"The decision to raise the children communally was the solution to that problem, it is what lay behind the decision."
This sentence will need to be re-written. Perhaps the meaning was, "The decision to raise the children communally was not the problem, it was what lay behind the decision." Even if this were the meaning, it is still not clear from the context of the article why it is relevant.Dylan23 18:15, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
- Father Feeney was ordered by Cardinal Richard Cushing to stop teaching that non-Catholics were automatically damned. Feeney refused to do so. Thus, both statements are true: Feeney was excommunicated for disobedience and for teaching EENS. Jhobson1 (talk) 12:44, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
