Talk:Learning by teaching

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I'll translate the German part of the text very soon (today).--Jeanpol 06:54, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Thank you for having corrected my English-faults 2 Please explain why this article requires cleanup 3 The article is now cleaned up (I think) 4 Sudbury model of democratic education 5 Who learns by teaching?

[edit] Thank you for having corrected my English-faults

Of course my English is a pity, but I'm improving it every day!;-))) Who corrected my English-mistakes in the LbT-Text? Anyway: thank your very much!--Jeanpol 05:08, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please explain why this article requires cleanup

--Jeanpol 04:24, 25 November 2006 (UTC) OK: I found the point "Cleanup - The article's sections aren't very well organized"

[edit] The article is now cleaned up (I think)

--Jeanpol 04:39, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sudbury model of democratic education

Don't you think the more ("relevant," of course,) information you give in an encyclopedia, the better ?

80.178.221.34 02:21, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

If you want to write articles for Wikipedia, you have to respect the basic-rules: 1. don't insert links in titles, don't insert extern-links inside texts, and so on. Furthermore the links you inserted are technical not optimal (you have to insert intern-links using [[ ]] and not the extern-link [http:// ]) 2. "The more information...the better" is not appropriate for an encyclopedia-article; you have to consider how important (relevant) the informations are for the topic (in this case Learning by teaching). In Sudbury Schools the focus lies not on Learning by teaching but on mixing different ages. Learning by teaching is a side effect. I think, if you want to contribute seriousely, you have to refocuse your contribution on Learning by teaching in the context of Sudbury. The best way is to train a little bit with other articles and than rewrite your contribution to Learning by teaching, so nobody can think you just want to advertise.--Jeanpol 05:40, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

I tried to precise your references. Please say where we can find the quoted sentences.--Jeanpol 09:27, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi Jean-pol,

" 'We go to school to learn.' That's the intellectual goal. It comes before all the others. So much so, that 'getting an education' has come to mean 'learning' -- a bit narrow, to be sure, but it gets the priorities clear.

Then why don't people learn more in schools today? Why all the complaints? Why the seemingly limitless expenditures just to tread water, let alone to progress?

The answer is embarrassingly simple. Schools today are institutions in which 'learning' is taken to mean 'being taught.' You want people to learn? Teach them! You want them to learn more? Teach them more! And more! Work them harder. Drill them longer.

But learning is a process you do, not a process that is done to you! That is true of everyone. It's basic."

[a fragment of, "Back to Basics"]

In Sudbury Schools the focus lies on getting an education. Learning is one of the goals of education: the intellectual goal.

There are many ways of learning, but as said before, "learning is a process you do, not a process that is done to you! That is true of everyone. It's basic."

So you can learn from books, or from a computer program, or from experience, or from somebody that guides you and explains you, or from being an apprentice, or from learning by teaching, or by watching someone else, or on your own,...for example.

In Sudbury Schools the focus lies on getting an education, not on mixing different ages. Age mixing in Sudbury Schools is just one of the important components of the school's environment that supports and enhances learning.

I invite you "to see" what is The Sudbury Valley School.

By the way, the vast majority of us wants other people to get acquainted with what we do and/or with what we believe in, and many of us wish to be accepted for what we do and/or for what we believe in. If that is advertising -- so be it.

Cheers, 80.178.221.34 10:26, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer. I agree. Please modify the sentences regarding the focus of the Sudbury Schools in the article. I tried to adapt your text to the topic of the article Learning by teaching. You may improve it, if you want. Of course we all are advertising. But it has to be on the topic and I think, now your contribution about Sudbury schools is adapted to the topic of the article. Greetings.--Jeanpol 11:17, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Who learns by teaching?

The way I understand it, learning by teaching primarily benefits the student-instructor, who has to acquire sufficient knowledge of the target subject in order to address the concerns of his/her peers. Is this the professional view of LdL? — Nahum Reduta [talk|contribs] 10:21, 25 February 2008 (UTC)