Talk:Lay brother

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--Punahou academy? Huh? Can someone with more knowledge check if this is an act of vandalism? It doesn't sound right to me.87.198.195.156 (talk) 18:35, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

The info printed in this article is from the 1913 edition of the Catholic Encyclopedia and is VERY outdated! The majority of verbs in the present tense need to be changed to the past tense, in order to express that lay brothers and lay sisters were a part of past history. Religious Brothers do still exist, even entire orders (non-ordained male religious), but this article does not explain their unique vocation. A Brother is no longer viewed as some type of second class manual worker, or someone who failed his studies for the priesthood. This article desperately needs to be revised! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.131.5.129 (talk) 00:27, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

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My understanding was that post Vatican II, the Lay Brotherhood was essentially eliminated as a seperate vocation; while there are a few 'leftovers' around, no new lay brothers are accepted, the roles that they previously filled being passed either to ordinary monks or to the general lay community. The article states that there are lay brothers present in every branch of Catholic monasticism as though it were current practice; I think that this may be a hold-over from outdated text incorporated from the public domain Catholic encyclopedia. Would anyone care to clarify this? --Clay Collier 11:45, 27 August 2005 (UTC)