Talk:Lawrence O'Donnell

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I don't think he's related to Kenneth O'Donnell

[edit] Jesus returning to earth

I think the point Mr O'Donnell made (i.e. what he actually said) was that Mormons believe that Jesus will return TO MISSOURI, not just 'to earth', which belief is common to Christians. 99.224.220.52 (talk) 19:22, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

I think that the label malicious is biased as are most of the sources.

I agree on the use of the word malicious. However, the Hugh Hewitt interview records Mr. O'Donnell's own words. Sources that are merely commentary could be biased. O'Donnell's own over wrought words can not be characterized as bias.

One can record what a person says, but this wiki should use primary sources to correct the record or provide NPOV commentary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.82.57.79 (talk) 19:47, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

O;Donnell's beliefs about Mormonism are very much in error. He would not be a reputable source on Mormon theology. Bytebear (talk) 00:53, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV discussion

The entry is obviously biased, as it currently stands, i.e. : "...O'Donnell is infamous for his very hostile and abrasive behavior. In a well known incident in October 2004, while a guest on the MSNBC show, Scarborough Country, O'Donnell began screaming "liar" over and over again to fellow guest John O'Neill, a Vietnam veteran, and refused to let O'Neill speak.[2] In May of 2005, while serving as a guest panelist the CNBC program, Dennis Miller, O'Donnell began screaming at fellow panelist, the late Cathy Seipp on the issue of public education and teachers.[3] During an episode of The McLaughlin Group in December 2007, O'Donnell launch into a tirade against the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints that was not based in fact or reason (e.g. the Mormons ran into trouble for being anti-slavery and Joseph Smith campaigned on an anti-slavery platform, O'Donnell accused him of being pro-slavery)." I believe that the wording must be changed. -The Gnome (talk) 10:27, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I Don't See the Bias

The facts are that O'Donnell IS infamous for being hostile and abrasive, and he did shout down John O'Neill and denied him an opportunity to speak, and he did scream at Cathy Seipp on the Dennis Miller Show. Simple facts. No bias.

And O'Donnell recently admitted on a radio talk show (Hugh Hewitt) that he feels free criticizing Mormons because "they're nice people" and wouldn't strike back at him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.21.166.162 (talk) 19:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I think it's biased. I hold no brief for L O'D, or anyone who works for MSNBC (I'm a right-wing-nut and danged proud of it). But "infamous" is a biased word by its nature, as is "tirade". I think his on-air antics are worthy of mention (given that there's a history going back years), but it should be phrased in a more neutral way. -- Narsil (talk) 23:02, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I think "rant" is the actual term that is being used in the media rather than "tirade"....and believe me, it was a rant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.238.152.3 (talk) 12:16, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree changing tirade to rant makes sense. The links to the Hugh Hewitt interview (Transcript and Podcasts) provides a clear example of L O'D's strident and hostile approach. Likewise abrasive and sreaming are objectively discernible. I'd invite The Gnome to listen to the HH podcast and read the transcript and then subject an objective description. L O'D was clearly unplugged. Interestingly, L O'D remember portrays a Fundamentalist Mormon on HBO's Big Love in a most unsympathetic way. His rant clearly explains where he stands. It would not be objective or neutral to portray his attitudes in a bland way. Neutral does not equal bland. Certainly L O'D is neither neutral nor bland. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.82.57.79 (talk) 19:39, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Neither "rant" nor "tirade" are appropriate. The other NPOV garbage words need to go to. Unless, of course, no one's serious about fairness. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.235.97.122 (talk) 04:46, 30 December 2007 (UTC)