Talk:Law of chastity
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[edit] Overall overhaul
I cleaned this up both grammatically and doctrinally. It still needs to more overtly say that the Law of Chastity is a concept and not a semantic policy somewhere. Mrcolj 16:46, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] POV
I am removing the "like a plague" as if trying to avoid pornography is unusual for a religion to teach
- It's a phrase used by Hinkley, the former recently dead prophet that a member should 'avoid pornography like the plague' however, without a good link and presented as a quote i agree with your judgment in removing itSanitycult (talk) 08:00, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Nudism
I've requested a citation for the dubious statement that nudism is prohibited by the law of chastity. If none is forthcoming, it may be deleted. Rich Uncle Skeleton (talk) 07:02, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
- In response to the edit summary, I am an endowed member, and marital nudity is definitely not prohibited, nor has it ever been. Decades ago it was often advised against, but there was never any official doctrine or policy about it. There is no penalty, nor temple recommend interview question, nor anything similar, related to being naked. --Masamage ♫ 08:05, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
What about "do you wear the temple garment day and night, as instructed..." etc. ? To me, that seems to impliedly reject it.
Also note that the statement in question was placed in the subsection called "Broader law of chastity as taught by church leaders". It's possible a church leader has taught against it and a citation exists. That doesn't necessarily mean it is an "official doctrine" or one to which a penalty attaches. And if it has been taught, but only in the past, that may be nonetheless worth mentioning. That being said, I would only give the editor a day or so to provide a citation since I've notified him/her directly on the user talk page. You can remove the statement soon if you wish and I won't object. Rich Uncle Skeleton (talk) 08:44, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
- I'm fine with waiting a very short amount of time. And yes, there is a question about the garment itself, but that "as instructed" now includes permission to remove it occasionally (such as for showers, for swimming, for sex, etc), although this wasn't always the case. No details are now given on exactly when it's appropriate to remove it, and I, at least, was told that nobody is allowed to say anything more specific than this; that it's completely between the individual and God. It is true that people used to wear their garments literally always, but statements to that effect would need to be in their hisotrical context, not stated as if they are presently true. Except I think it's already discussed in the Garment article. --Masamage ♫ 18:02, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Hm, yes. I just thought "nudism" suggested that you are naked close to 100% of the time. It's a bit of a stretch to suggest that a person could legitimately feel they were wearing the garment "as instructed" "day and night" if they are almost always naked. Rich Uncle Skeleton (talk) 21:39, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
- Oh. Yeah, that is true--I was reading it as the more general 'nudity'. Stating this in terms of lifestyle-nudism seems really confusing and roundabout, though; it'd be much more informative to talk about the garment rule itself. (Anyway, the word 'prohibited' makes it sound like anti-nudism is an explicit rule.) --Masamage ♫ 21:47, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
I see what you are saying now. I was interpreting it as a lifestyle choice as discussed in Nudism. But no, if it's a mere suggestion that a person can't be nude, I find that ridiculous and definitely not part of the LDS law of chastity. Rich Uncle Skeleton (talk) 21:50, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
