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[edit] Picture

Can we please change this picture? For obvious reasons. It's offensive and not representative. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Liquidswords (talk • contribs) 10:45, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Comment by NotGonnaTellYouMyName

I think Anthony was her boyfriend.

[edit] Anthony

In the Biography section, there are several references to someone named Anthony, or antI, or something like that. Who is this Anthony, and does this section make sense to anyone else? I don't know that much about Lauryn Hill, but to me these sentences seem nonsensical at best, and wrong at worst.

The homealien 18:57, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "editorial comment"

Thought I'd just point out that there's a few weird sentences following the word "austria". I don't know how to fix this, since I don't know the facts surrounding this.

Later: I decided that removing the passage wouldn't hurt to much, so I removed it, for the sake of discussion, it read:

Austria (only thing the writer forgot to mention/or didn't know is that the concert in Austria ( I don't know about the other european countries) war unfortunately cancelled!!!without ever giving the concert at another point of time!!!),

84.150.98.130 14:20, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

EDIT: The sentence means that The Fugees never did Austria. It was cancelled. I deleted "Austria".

Lauryn Hill later came to the Nuke Festival in 2005. The concert, however, was horrific, and left me (an ardent admirer) deeply dissappointed. It had been raining all day and everybody was completetely soaked. She was so late, that she only performed for 45mins, then had to stop. The performance seemed like a rehearsal, so half of the audience left within these 45mins. It was obvious that she hated being up there and having to perform.

[edit] Vatican Response

Um, is there any evidence that Pope John Paul II's speech to clergy from Sudan is linked to what Hill said a few days before? This seems very circumstantial.

(Sources for this biography include magazine articles from Essence magazine, Ebony magazine (by Melissa Ewey), Jet magazine, PR Newswire, MTV, Associated Press, Reuters, and the Internet Movie Database (IMDb).)

"She has a son and daughter by Rohan Marley, the son of Reggae legend Bob Marley." http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=entertainmentNews&storyID=421929&section=news

Does any Lauryn Hill fan out there know what "the untouchable PSP" is? She refers to it in the song "Every Ghetto, Every City". ---DropDeadGorgias (talk) 17:07, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)

I looked on Google and it looks like it could be a public school? I'm not too sure and now when I search for stuff that contains PSP all I get is info about Sony.

--- note: she was in the steven soderbergh film "king of the hill", not the animated television series as the bio alludes to. i corrected it.

[edit] Dang...

She looks better as she grows with age... :D Project2501a 21:47, 9 October 2005 (UTC) (New Fugees album people, don't forget)

Not encyclopedic, nevertheless true... ;D 85.226.122.222 16:56, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Her work as a producer and director

I was surpriced that there was no mention about her work as procuder for other artist like MAry J. Blige. Shouldn't that be there somewhere. And another thing is that she has directed two music videos, for Aretha Franklin "Rose Is Still A Rose" and for Common "Retrospect For Life". [1] --L.a.m.b 13:33, 25 November 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Racist accusations

Should we mention something about the racist accusations, and the alleged MTV quotes? According to www.snopes.com, it seemed like just a gross misunderstanding by a caller to Howard Stern, which somehow turned to a rumor in the mainstream media. Nevertheless, it turned into quite a big story. 85.226.122.222 16:56, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Absolutey should be mentioned, though by my understanding, it's more than simply an incorrect story of which too much was made.


Can someone update this? The entry seems watered down, un-wiki without this info. In fact it was the only reason I looked her up. I may end up doing a term paper on this fiasco should my research prove fruitful, and in that case I will update heavily.

Nah nah nah come on now people, if she did or is she didnt say these racist remarks it realy doesnt matter to me! Im white and i realy do like lauryn hill. Ive listend to her unplugged album continiously and its seems to me shes far from racist. it also seems as if shes moved on and changed greatly i liked the old lauryn hill, but i love the new lauryn.

I have deleted the false racist allegations completely. Surely Wiki should not repeat lies which have been proven to be untrue. I see no point in putting in a untrue rumour and in the next paragraph admitting it to be false. SmokeyTheFatCat 15:16, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

The point is that, even if untrue, the story became a phenom in the popular media that drew attention to Hill for some time, and its relevant for that reason. Lots of people hear rumors like this and come to Wikipedia looking for context; in that case, there is definite value in noting it here, if only to refute it. The info should be restored to the article.Darthmix 21:36, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

I was at her concert in dublin, Ireland and she was very racist and almost booed of the stage ...

I think it would be a good idea to clearly debunk the rumor that Lauryn Hill is a racist. A lot of people heard this rumor and I would not be surprised if some people who have not taken the time to check it out on the internet still believe her to be a racist. I remember mentioning Lauryn Hill to my niece and she responded immediately with, "I don't like her. She's a racist." On another occasion I got into a conversation about music with a hotel employee in Germany and when I mentioned Lauryn Hill she replied with, "I used to love her music but I won't listen to it anymore now that I've found out she's a racist."

Can't we add something to show that Wikipedia clearly denies this controversial rumor? Novice Wikipedian, Kealakekua 07:26, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I would like to see the racsist accusations be mentioned in this article thats really the only reason why i went here to find out what exactly happened since i was very little when this happened so I wouldn't know and this is a bio of her life this did happen to her so it should be mentioned and if indeed she the rumour was proved wrong then mention that as well just mention it!

-ddlc (I don't know how to sign this put here it is) ***

What is this stuff about Hill being racist in Dublin? Why would she tour a white country like Ireland if she was racist? It makes no sense. I think whoever posted it should back it up or withdraw the comment. SmokeyTheCat 12:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I'll just paste this again..

-- She played a concert in Norway just a few days ago and demanded that all her bodyguards had to be black. Alongside some other WIERD behaviour. (From Norway's biggest newspaper) http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=153477

Someone keeps removing the info about Eminem's lyrics about the rumour, but without ever giving a reason why. IMO it is relevant to show the notability of the episode and if the anonymous editor cannot give a reason why it shouldn't be here, don't touch! Jake73 21:50, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Eminem as a source? please eminem has no way to make it like ms. hill actually did say it, he's just a washed up rapper

Kellz88 (talk) 15:07, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I believe these all should be removed, as there is no cite for the rumor. It's passive voice, weasel words. If they were noteworthy, there would be a citation for them. In addition, the claim that the statement is racist is not NPOV. In all, it does not belong here. Bugg42 (talk) 01:47, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] talib kweli - ms. hill

some mention should be made of Talib Kweli's song titled Ms. Hill off of his new album, Right about Now... It's about Lauryn. It talks about her career amongst other things. Nothing groundbreaking but should be mentioned IMO --Jaysscholar 22:13, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

I agree. Plus it's a beautiful song. --Mercury1 21:15, 23 January 2006 (UTC)


I was at her concert in dublin, Ireland and she was very racist and almost booed of the stage

Really? It's pretty sad, if that's how it really is... What did she say?

Um can someone explain to me how she collabed with Joss Stone and how she is close friends with a white jewish guy(i forgot his name) and yet she's racist how much sense does that make... these rumors are way to much. Yeah she was racist in ireland yet everytime she goes they welcome her with open arms yeah they must despise her.

This is second time this anonymous user has made exactly the same - word for word - allegations. I think s/he should back it up or withdraw the comments.SmokeyTheCat 14:27, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hill's Picture

ugh. people. the one i uploaded was a publicity shot and it looked WAAAAY better than the one we got now. ugh. dang. do the woman some justice 07:57, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New pic

I put a much better pic up. This woman is gorgeous, give her some visual props.

I don't think that this is a great photo. The subject is much better-looking that this. I may put up an alternative.SmokeyTheCat 17:03, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I think that this is a better image of the fair Ms. Hill. Photo is public domain I think.SmokeyTheCat 11:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

The picture on Lauryn Hill's page as of 3 July 2007 purported to be Lauryn Hill is not Lauryn Hill. It is Erykah Badu.

[edit] Whistle Register

I was just wondering...I know Lauryn has a dynamic voice, but in which song(s) does she access the whistle register? FamousBobby 19:55, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Lauryn hits F6 in the song "To Zion"
I thought that was another girl listed on the whistle register who did that... Both cant be credited for the same note. 67.181.94.201 03:48, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
Since Lauryn Hill herself does not hit the note and there is no record of her hitting it, I think she should be removed. This does not reduce her talent, she is just not a whistle register singer. Myke 18:28, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
No,it was Lauryn who did that note. She is a whistle register singer.
Sabrina Johnston is the singer who hits the F6 in To Zion. Lauryn never does the note live so why would she record it? Its a key note to the song and she never did it live. And lauryn really hasnt sung that high besides that note. Myke 03:22, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
well Ms. Johnston never hit live either but we credit her so how do we know that lauryn hill didn't hit it in the studio and just didn't hit it live cause she wasn't in the mood. Beyonce hit an E6 in happy face but live didn't hit live,Angie Stone hit E6 in Groove Me and never sang the song live,so with that ileave you all to ponder that maybe she did hit live.
I agree. Why would it be someone else on Lauryn's recording? That was definitely Lauryn hitting that F6.Jdot01 16:25, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] assumptions

The article claims that Lauryn Hill denounced her fame writing more spiritual and introspective songs. This may be an assumption rather than fact.

My interpretation of Lauryn Hill's MTV performance shows that she offered her gift to the audience then and into the future as a text more than hip, cool, and possibly dumbing. And if her fame dropped as a result of this change in material it was consequential, not choice. As Lauryn stated: "Even if one person...."

And that one person has grown to include the entire R&B culture. Off the top of my head, take a listen to the Black Eyed Peas "Do What You Want", the final track of the Monkey Business album. It definitely has connotations pertinent to Lauryn Hill's "I find It Hard To Say (Rebel)".


anybody who doesn't think lauryn can hit the note in "to zion" should go to youtube.com and search for lauryn hill.. there's several concert footage which proves she can hit it.. anyway why would a woman of her integrity claim she could hit it and not do it?? GET REAL

[edit] 65.190.167.135

This anon keeps deleting the personal and external link sections of this article. Given the anon's editing history, I suspect the anon may be Lauryn herself, or someone on her behalf. I have TWICE changed the references to Rohan Marley as her husband, since Lauryn & Rohan are not married, and I have included citations to prove it. The anon keeps changing it back to "husband," refuses to cite a source, and ignored my polite request to not revert my edit without a source. Furthermore, the anon keeps deleting all of the external links at the end of this article, including a fantastic, comprehensive 2003 Rolling Stone article that happened to be critical of Lauryn. This anon is starting to piss me off--her edits are not in good faith, since (1) deleting valid content without reason is vandalism; (2) she ignored my request to stop reverting other's edits without sources; (3) she is skirting dangerously close to violating the three-revert rule. WATCH OUT for edits made by 65.190.167.135.

How do you know that she's not married? Hanako 16:37, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] There is such a thing as Too Much Information.

Do we really need to know how much rent Lauryn Hill pays? -- Cimon Avaro; on a pogostick. 02:08, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Properly not. However, the section about her "personal life" is currently very short, and it could most likely be expanded with a whole lot of relevant and notable information.

should the fact that she is a mother be in the intro paragraph? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.180.23 (talk) 02:29, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Award History

I have a question about the Award History. Lauryn Hill's Grammys Career Statistics quote 19 nominations. However, I noticed that Lost Ones is listed twice as being nominated in 1998 for "Best Female Rap Solo Perfomance."

Does anyone know if there is a reason for this?

Grammys Career Statistics[1][2]

  • Career Wins: 8
  • Career Nominations: 19
Category Genre Song/Album Year Result
Best Female Rap Solo Performance Rap Lost Ones 1998 Nominated

Kealakekua 07:37, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] who removed the grammy LH won 4 Supernatural (Santana album)?

LH has 8. Who took of\ out the grammy she won 4 producing the Santana album Supernatural (Santana album). On grammys.com it is attributed to LH. 70.108.140.158 (talk) 11:47, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Racism

This article should cover the rumor that Hill hates white people, saying that if she had know white people would buy her album she would not have recorded it. This is a common enough belief that it needs to be refuted. Hyacinth 22:21, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Now how could that be tru when one of her closest firneds is white and jewish and she also recorded a song with joss stone. Come on now that ain't even right.

-- She played a concert in Norway just a few days ago and demanded that all her bodyguards had to be black. Alongside some other WIERD behaviour. (From Norway's biggest newspaper) http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=153477

[edit] upcoming album

Khulami Phase..look it up —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deananoby2 (talk • contribs) 13:30, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] archive this talk.dis page some one PLEASE

archive this page some one PLEASE..thx.

[edit] did Mis Ed sell 8mill or 9mill

[2] changed the numbers. If s/he is wrong, pls change them back.

[edit] unique

i think u are very unique. i just got done watching sister act 2,i think your part was one of the best part. please email me back my email is amaniachel@yahoo.com it would mean so much to me if you emailed me. i'd be so so happy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.164.117.168 (talk) 23:47, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

ZOMG does he thinks Lauren Hill going to email him LOL.--The Blizzard King 00:01, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wasted her talent

Who else thinks she wasted her musical talent by not releasing albums,instead raising a family.

It might have been a waste of her musical talent, but not necessarily a waste of her life. I wish she would have kept on recording, but I understand her choice and respect her for making it. -jncohen 17:38, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
I DISAGREE:
Family is important to her. Her 2nd single stated it clearly
I chose 2 use my heart. Now the joy of my world is in Zion.
When she is ready she'll return and we are all awaiting her anxiosuly ! 70.108.140.158 (talk) 11:53, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] who removed the grammy LH won 4 Supernatural (Santana album)?

LH has 8. Who took of\ out the grammy she won 4 producing the Santana album Supernatural (Santana album). On grammys.com it is attributed to LH. Look here. She won for producing the album @ the 99 42nd grammys. I'm putting it back. 70.108.140.158 (talk) 11:56, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Jamaican?

Is she of Jamaican descent? Are her parents or grandparents Jamaican? I haven't found a source claiming that she's actually Jamaican, but she's in a relationship with Rohan Marley (son of Bob Marley). Blackjays1 (talk) 12:35, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] "All That I Can Say"

Can someone add the Mary J Blige single "All That I Can Say" from Mary (album) to the singles box?Cosprings (talk) 18:31, 19 January 2008 (UTC)